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hum.. by Icod, Score -1.1
I am really kinda surprised by the new set...
Demonstalker overall has: +114 agility (works out to +2.5% crit roughly) +396 overall attackpower.(+450.9 C-Aim spec) +12 Hit Rate +16!!! Crit rate? (takes 22 to = 1%) Thats kinda sad...a little over +3% crit...wow Dragonstalker overall has: +142 Agility (2.67% crit) +418 overall attackpower (+461 if you C-Aim spec) +20 Hit Rating +70 Crit Rating (about 3% crit from this alone) I am kinda scratching my head going... hey this isnt correct... Now i understand that T4 does not have bracers, boots or a belt but... How on Azeroth are we suposed to make a belt, bracers and boots get us near to +70 Crit rating. Id wager its not likely to happen anytime soon. Keep in mind that Demonstalker has sockets.. woo... and does have Mana Per Five... (which appears to be good since they made hunters very twicthy)We dont hold time rotations like we used to where we could chill for a couple seconds and use spirit to get our mana back, so Mp5 is good now but... Does it really justify that much crit loss? I guess Demonstalker does have a larger mana pool for us to use too. Aspect of the viper might come into play with that int increase aswell... Short term however I am very disapointed by the lack of crit on this set. The set bonuses aswell seem to let me down. After long consideration of the intended purpose of this set... I am guessing its value is the mana consumption. It allows us to last longer i presume, but at a cost of crit.
Some people are comparing this set with the t2 or the t3 pieces and they say : wtf ?what is this crap? i expected like +1000 atk pow and 20% crit and OMW and PWNZOR! In fact they are wrong... there is one thing they have missed out here. Its the SOCKETS!The sockets play a really important role to the item stats (eg when an item has 2 red socket spots on it and some other stats , you just put 2 +16 atk power sockets which are very easy to get and the item becomes now IMBA! plus the socket bonuses).To conclude,you do not have to worry about the t4,t5 items as they are actually better than they seem.Bliz people know what they are doing, they cant have made such big mistake,,,
How is this acquired? by Lahru, Score -1.2
Well obviously this is going to work like the Zul'gurub pieces in a way as for the Zul'Gurub set you had to get the pieces from raids and then turn it in as a quest, but this time blizz has at least let us buy the armor with the piece instead of having to gain rep with it as well.
Why? by Weezerpwns, Score -1.2
I know hitting hard in group situations is key for a hunter but so is the Ability to solo stuff no other classes can. I like to play pvp and solo very hard mobs to push survivability. Pulling aggro off your pet and even off a warrior is pretty easy if you use your cooldowns correctly, you can even kite and offtank mobs if needed and you need STAMINA.
Where the hell is the stamina? Each of these pieces should have 6-10 more stamina minimal excluding the sockets. I know this isn't pvp gear but come on now. Some of my tier 1 items have more stamina then this. At level 60 I was in the top 5% of my guild as far as health only getting beat by Defense specced warriors. Seing how one of our trees is Survivability you'd think Blizz would offer more health in the set because its the easiest way to survive. Come on Blizzard playing the hunter is about surviving and we can't without stamina. ..... and as a side note the set bonuses are very weak indeed.
Same Same by Solomonwar, Score 0.00
On this set
2 * Yellow 2 * Blue 1 Meta 2 * Red A generic setup (such that you get the bonuses as well) - would give: 24 Crit Rating (A lil over 1%) 12 Stam 56 AP And the bonuses of: 4 Agi 3 Int 8 AP You still have 3 other Armor slots to fill as well (That’s HUGE!) If you want more crit add more Yellow Gems, More Stam and Crit add Blues, More AP add reds you don’t have to get the socket bonuses if you don’t want them. When you factor in the AP/Agi/CR Enchants, from Enchanters and Rep the fact you have other slots to fill in: Back, Neck, Rings, 3 more Armor slots, Trinkets, and what not and the Amount of AP you will have is just crazy. Yes your crit rate will not be what it was at 60 - so what - the fact is you have so much AP that when you do crit you hit like a nothing you can imagine. How long might it take to acquire the whole set by OPxToXiC, Score -0.89 How long to get the whole set by OPxToXiC, Score -0.27 what? how long by OPxToXiC, Score -1.3
multi shot isnt pointless... i like doing an extra 1500 damage every time the cooldown is up
seriously though a rough estimate on how long it would take for a regular person to get all the gear
Whoever said they reset every 24 hours is an idiot. There on a 7 days reset just as usual and reset every tuesday in North america with the server shutdow.Were talking about instances with 12 bosses per raid, almost noway to clear those places in one night until you get them on farm.
In case none of you whiners noticed listen.
Attack power has been increased insanely during TBC, and now people want tons of crit too?, well me 2 but hey you cant have it all. First of all gj blizz on the apperance on Demon stalker, now we can say we look cool and not just pink and gay. 2nd of all to the real deal, if you combine the Shoulders and helmet of demon stalker with gloves and legs of rift stalker youll have 2 very nice set bonuses plus better then avr stats out of it. No one says you gotta use the whole set COMBINE the sets with random items. My oppinion on this matter, thx. Ps:. im lvl 65 atm and i have 22crit BM/MM specced, its np with the useage of leathers here and there instead of mail ^^
actualy i find the T4/5 hunter sets pretty ugly and... missfit (? i'm not american so i don't know if its the correct word) it looks like anything but a hunting gear to me... =(
but it is true thats it still looks beter thand the Saint Saya Shiryu gay looking armor =p "Huntar" ftw by Eroeen, Score -1.4 Tier 4 and 5 set complaints....... by freestyle_013, Score -0.31 T4 Set bonuses by freestyle_013, Score -0.63
Ok u get fallen hero stuuf then turn it in right??
okay im gonna fit this with http://www.thottbot.com/i25894 2 of these http://www.thottbot.com/i24051 1 of these http://www.thottbot.com/i24031 and 2 of these http://www.thottbot.com/i24055 wont that just kick ass?!
gets me sad how blizzard has decided to make our crit rating pretty low, before the BC with full t2 and other epics i could easily reach 30% crit.
but this set everything a hunter need but %crit this also has little agility wich sucks, that makes the Survival tree pretty useless, unless you decide to take some blues or greens with high amounts of agility. before they nerfed "Aimed Shot" some months ago i could easily do 700-800 DPS. it sucks pretty much the class, we can only be on the top damage charts on a few fights, only when other classes have to stop dealing damage because they dont have FD. even mages have a higher DPS on single target. they could only deal more dps than me on aoe pulls.
keep in mind for those of you that compare the pre-expansion tier to this that we have only 5 get pvp gear for crit if you dont like the crit on this set do enchants to increase your critical strike chance.
this set isnt so bad it allows you to bring in more shots while this is a more of MM set for attack power bonus and having less agil then gladiator for survival. Also..this does make you do more damage on non-crits gladiator gives so much critical strike i dont think you will stop critting on a mage at all simple as that So far..... by TrashCrash, Score -0.41 Re: Demon Stalker Armor by blorne, Score -0.39
The way im looking at these sets is that im seeing that demon stalker is got better Intellect which is for MM right?.... and Rift stalker has got more of the agility stamina thing going obviously for BM so what looks good to me get the 2 set bonus of each set there for you stil got your intellect and stamina and agility and dont forget your MP5 =D
Re: Demon Stalker Armor by wowrider, Score 0.00 Re: Demon Stalker Armor by ajmo, Score 0.00
Boots of the Crimson Hawk goes with this set. http://thottbot.com/i30045/
They have changed the graphic from red and it goes well with the Demon Stalker Set. Keep your eye on the local AH. The pattern drops in SSC Re: Demon Stalker Armor by ipwntwinks, Score 0.00
Since the availability of Season 1 Arena gear after patch 2.3 grants easy access to quality epics I thought a comparison between S1 and T4 would be relevant.
If you were geared in all S1 Gladiator gear and decided to go for the full T4 set instead these are the approximate stats you would gain/lose, not counting gems or socket bonuses: Armor: -82 Crit Chance: -3.37% Stam: -104 Int: +72 Hit Chance: +15 AP: +156 mp5: +17 Resilience: -107 These numbers can completely change based on the gems you choose to use but here are the sockets you have available and the socket bonuses: T4 Meta: 1 Yellow: 2 Red: 2 Blue: 2 Bonuses: +4 Agi, +8 AP, +3 Int S1 Meta: 1 Yellow: 2 Red: 4 Blue: 0 Bonuses: +4 Crit Rating, +7 Resilience I made this post because there is a lot of speculation regarding which is going to be a better set. It seems that the T4 set is going to be better for raiding due to the increased AP and the hugely better mana pool and mana efficiency. However, the amount of hit rate they give for this set is far from impressive so depending on your other gear and talent build you could potentially still be missing a lot. It goes without saying, though, that the drastic reduction in crit would be sorely missed. For raiding the S1 gear is definitely viable but you'll likely run oom on the longer boss fights and I don't know whether the extra crit will make up for the lack of AP. You could put gems in your S1 gear that would make you more mana efficient, but if you're like me you'll probably just throw a +16 AP or +8 agi in there :P I personally have the full S1 set with a bunch of +8 agi gems and I have about 28% crit unbuffed for now which isn't too bad but with approx 6300 mana unbuffed I have to keep plenty of mana pots on hand for instances/raids, and sometimes I have to resort to Aspect of the Viper over Aspect of the Hawk. Hope this post helps you out and clears up some misconceptions.
Re: Demon Stalker Armor by OdiumDei, Score 0.00 to the idiots by aplayer, Score 0.00
you get these for a vendor in shattrah
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