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  •   Report  Quote Reply Druid
    Score 1.5     Vote: [-] [+] by Tayru, 1.4 years ago
    Bear tankin trinket.
    nuff said
    •   Report  Quote Reply Tank Trinket
      Score 3.9     Vote: [-] [+] by MrMazoku, 1.4 years ago
      Best tanking trinket for any tank (Paladin, Druid, Warrior).
    • well by Aurelli, Score 0.00
    • Didn't really want i... by Topani, Score 0.36
    •   Report  Quote Reply Best for druid tanks (maybe palladin)
      Score 6.2     Vote: [-] [+] by scw55, 1.3 years ago
      In my opinion this trinket is better for a Druid Bear thank than any other classes.
      Reason being there artn't any "eek" situation skills druids have at their disposal. The only skill they have is a HoT which restores 2500hp over 10secs whilst burning down your rage bar. (2500hp with about 1/7 of a raid full buffed druid's health, which won't save you from an 8k crushing blow. It's a skill best used in 5 mans or to get some additional aggro)

      I currently use this green trinket that I got from the goblins in hellfire on day one at level 60. I would dream to get this trinket.

      I have no idea if this would be equally beneficail for a Palladin tank, I never played one or met a good one.
      •   Report  Quote Reply This item is best fo...
        Score 1.6     Vote: [-] [+] by BlueMania, 1.3 years ago
        This item is best for a feral druid tank. Only reason is because druids dont have many options for trinkets to raise avoidance.

        I'm a pally tank and i REALLY want this too.
        • Got this by Lightdrinker, Score 0.37
        •   Report  Quote Reply IIRC Feral Druids ca...
          Score 2.0     Vote: [-] [+] by LindsfarneonShandris, 1.3 years ago
          IIRC Feral Druids cannot block or parry, but they can dodge. So for sure this is a great item for a druid tank.

          OTOH, any tank can use this. When bosses hit for 6k, you want that swing to miss you, plain and simple.

          This is a tanking trinket.

          If you are a Rouge, go for attack power/hit/crit PLEASE.
      •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Best for druid tanks (maybe palladin)
        Score 1.6     Vote: [-] [+] by lostmarine, 1.3 months ago
        Last edit: 1.3 months ago
        this is for tanking first... so no dps class should roll need for it over a tank. then if no tank needs it for main or ofspek then yeah i dont care let the rogue roll for it if they dont have a better trinket. its not like trinkets are easy to get.
              i have yet to meet a druid tank that i liked
        lvl70 paladin: I ret for fun heal out of need and tank to spank
    •   Report  Quote Reply Droods in PVE no doubt
      Score 2.1     Vote: [-] [+] by Je_Ess, 1.3 years ago
      This is a kick ass trinket for most non-spell classes in PVP.

      However it comes from a PVE enquanter and I guess any guild out there will see that this trinket has been made for tank-druids.

      For me who quite often fill in as MT in Karazen this trinket in combination with the Adamantive Figurine is a lifesaver when I notice my healers are struggeling. It just makes those 4k hits each second to go down to 3k hits every 5 second.

      And one more thing with this trinket that maybe makes it one of the best out there is that it doesn't share cooldown with any other trinket I have tried and it even doesn't trigger the global cooldown on anything! So in theory I can pop two trinkets and my regeneration within .5 seconds.
    • Re: Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch by imbri, Score 0.40
    • Not a PVP item for melee by Yimmi, Score 0.00
      •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch
        Score 1.2     Vote: [-] [+] by Kharnos76, 1.2 years ago
        I would say druid tank / MT are equally qualified to have pri on this beaut.

        It dropped for us last night me and a druid did the tanking combo and it works great that way.

        To the point The dodge is as important for mt as it is for druids. I have equipment mostly towards dodge it may take away some hp but i feel i get tons in return by dodging alot of hits saving healers alot of mana.
        I was about 21% dodge before trinket now its 23% with that bonus use 300 dodge rating to go.

        its all about finding the balance. Its always a relief for healers when fighting hard hiting bosses if you can compensate with dodge /parry
        not only high armor and hp.
      • Re: Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch by Draught, Score -5.7
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      •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch
        Score 4.8     Vote: [-] [+] by KingTimetheos, 11.4 months ago
        This trinket gives dodge.  It's true that dodge is all druids have in terms of avoidance, but this is offset by their incredibly high sta and AC.  The truth is, dodge rating is exactly as effective for warrior or pally tanks as it is for druids.  If it had, say, AC on it instead, it'd be more a druid trinket due to their 400% bonus.  If it had block or parry, it'd be more a warrior/pally trinket.  But dodge (like stamina) is a universal stat which isn't any more effective for druids as it is for anyone else.

        This is a tanking trinket, pure and simple.  All tanks are equally entitled to it.


        Rogues, this drops in a raid. In a raid, you don't get hit.  Please be sensible and don't roll on this, at least until all tanks in the raid already have it.
      • Re: Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch by Greenstrike, Score 0.51
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        Score 1.5     Vote: [-] [+] by yiptastic, 11.1 months ago
        wtf? rogue needs it?  If you are thinking about PVP, get things with resilence.  Or AP/crit......

        This is a tanking trinket.  Get it if you are farming kara, but not for progression. 

        MT will need this over OT.  It's as simple as that. 
      •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch
        Score 2.5     Vote: [-] [+] by medako01, 10.9 months ago
        Last edit: 10.9 months ago
        Well last night me being a MT I got a bunch of BS from the rogue that came with me, Saying that he wanted the watch.

        Even though I knew it was a better trinket for me. Can we say greedy,or even loot whore.

        Well he bitched enough to get it well just say that.
      •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch
        Score 1.0     Vote: [-] [+] by Abraxin, 10.8 months ago
        6th time in Kara and I got his. This thing has dropped several times while I've been there. Long story short, I was healing at the time and since I am aiming for some tank gear, I asked for it. Both tanks didn't need it so my healadin self lucked out. Only a few more pieces and I'll be UC! Wooot! ^.^


        ~M_D~ I wonder if this shares any CD with Figurine of the Colossus? O.o
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        Score 1.7     Vote: [-] [+] by sfeuless, 8.5 months ago
        Last edit: 8.5 months ago
        The reason that some are missing as to why a Druid should get first priority is that they don't have as many options.  I am a Pally tank with Adamantite Figurine, which has 32 defense rating and Dabiri's Enigma, which gives 30.  Yes the "use" capability of the figurine kinda sux cuz it's just armor, but Dabiri's 125 block rating for 15 sec rocks.
        The 32 defense on the figurine is worth 32 x .067= 2.14% avoidance. The 38 dodge on the watch is worth 38 x .053 = 2.01% avoidance.  See the problem? If you are a Pally working towards that all-important uncrushable status, you are slightly closer to that with the figurine because it has more of the reliable avoidance you need.  The "use" effect of Dabiri has a long cooldown, so you can't chain it with the watch "use" effect to be reliably uncrushable.  Some crushable Pallies may still prefer the watch to the figurine because the "use" effect is way better and the reliable avoidance difference is small.
        Now, since a druid doesn't get the same benefit from defense due to no blocking or parry, dodge is worth a helluva lot more to them, relative to other options.  Dodge is their only avoidance man, give em a break!  They don't need to think about tradeoffs with other stats because there really isn't one, and they have fewer trinkets that will help them at all (Dabiri's won't, for example).
        IF the Pally is already uncrushable, however, that means they are at 100%+ avoidance/block against L73 with holy shield up.  IF they are that far and are trying to replace block with dodge to reduce overall damage, THEN the Pally has a near equal need IMHO.
        I know less about warriors, but since they become uncrushable much quicker than Pallies do, they might also be able to make a good case.  The Pally (and maybe the warrior?) will be giving up a little threat generation due to reduced blocking though.  Rogues - of course you do a disservice to your guild if you roll on this against a tank.
      •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch
        Score 0.57     Vote: [-] [+] by PsychoLCrazy <Order of the Eagles>, 8.2 months ago
        All I kno is I'm exalted and apparently not lucky enough for a lucky pocket watch..... WTH...
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        Score 1.5     Vote: [-] [+] by retpallysftw, 5.1 months ago
        Decided to be nice and offtank kara for some guildies, even though it's usually not something i jump to do since kara can be boring when there is nothing you need anymore for your main spec...what do you know this drops off moroes and since the maintank has it i ask for it.  And what do you know some rogue decides he needs it as well...95 roll by him and 5 by me. moral of the story- make sure your loot master has a brain.
        •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch
          Score 0.77     Vote: [-] [+] by MalakaMan, 5.0 months ago
          Great trinket for ZA! Can be a life-saver at Halazzi and in general avoidence is very neccessary in ZA as all bosses can not crush, but hit VERY hard with normal swings! Blocking is almost useless except for threat
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          Score 0.79     Vote: [-] [+] by Dalamyr, 4.7 months ago
          Last edit: 4.7 months ago
          Hmm, well it might be true that it could help you during farming or heroics, but your guild isn't running Kara in order to make farming easier for YOU, your guild is running kara so your ENTIRE guild can progress to Gruul's and beyond, no matter how awesome YOU are at farming or heroics, that won't help your GUILD get into Gruul's, good lord man, don't ask what the guild can do for you, ask what you can do for your guild.  Let the tanks have this trinket
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          Score 1.7     Vote: [-] [+] by wambi, 4.3 months ago
          Im a warrior tank and im realy hopin to get this cuz I have dabiri's Enigmia http://thottbot.com/i30300 and adamantite figureen. This plus Dabiri's Enigmia=32% more avoidance for 10 sec

          Nuf said
        •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch
          Score 2.6     Vote: [-] [+] by robwsu, 4.0 months ago
          No this trinket is useful for other tanks but is a feral druid trinket priority. If there is a feral druid tank it should always go to the druid first. Here is why, first of all there are a ton of trinkets in the game that benifit a warrior or pally in terms of evasion stats. Gnomeregan autoblocker, and tons of others that either add shield midigation or block/parry.  Druids only have one evasion stat which is dodge. Though druids do have high armor and hp, the fact of the matter is druids inevitably take more damage if they dont' have high evasion than a warrior tank for bosses. Warriors/ pally's have parry dodge and block. Additonally block value miditagates damage physcially taken from each attack aditionally to armor. YOUR BASE AC DOES NOT DETERMINE HOW MUCH DAMAGE YOU TAKE as a warrior or pally !! so to compare druid armor to pally or warrior armor is irrelevant!! They physical damage done to both warrior and pally tanks is midigated by talents, or defensive stance for example that bonus, and shield block value.  DRUIDS DO NOT HAVE SHIELD BLOCK VALUE OR TALENTS TO REDUCE DAMAGE TAKEN THROUGH SHIELDS. Thus, AC is not a good indicator of how much damage someone will take. DODGE is all a druid has so if you let a warrior or pally tank take this trinket over a druid you are a fool. End of story. The evasion stats that should be stack the most for either or a warrior or pally is shield block % simply because a warrior gets more rage when he blocks and attack and with the prot pally talent redoubt , you can have almost 100% block % at times if you stack block. I play all 3 kinds of tanks , i know how they all work. SO LESS QQ.. dont STEAL THIS FROM A FERAL DRUID EVER.
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            Score 1.7     Vote: [-] [+] by vortigren, 4.0 months ago
            Last edit: 4.0 months ago
            I play a prot pally and I run alot of heroics and kara,
            (the trink actually was enough to let me tank some harder stuff) this trinket has saved my ass, and the partys multiple times.  its a tank item first, then whoever else wants it next.  It dosn't matter what the hell kinda tank you are, if you bit off more than you can chew, you will need this to give the healer a few seconds to get your health back up, and give the party a few seconds to down a few mobs and get you back to a number you can handle.  you can ramble on endlessly why certain "classes" need it more...whatever...  if any class is taking a hard thrashing, this is one thing that may give you enough of an edge to prevent a wipe.  its nice for pvp as well, very handy when you got two rogues stabbing away at you.  thank god I have a great guild and we don't squabble over drops like a bunch of old ladys.
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          Score 1.0     Vote: [-] [+] by yeonseandon, 3.0 months ago
          FFS don't understand why rogues are rolling need on this when tanks also needs.... ok in raid rogues do not usely get damaged however tanks always do. so get a hitrating trinket and get a life please
        •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch
          Score 1.1     Vote: [-] [+] by SkipOnDownUnder, 2.8 months ago
          i cleaned up in kara tonight.
          i got this beauty along with the barbed choker of discipline off maiden, the panzar breastplate off nightbane, and my great protector ring.  i also got the new 60 badge reward protector ring.

          i was starting to get worried... warrior drops from kara were scarce for awhile
        •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch
          Score 1.2     Vote: [-] [+] by Skiball, 2.4 months ago
          Anyone know if it shaes cooldown with Dabiri's Enigma, the defense and shield block trinket from the Netherstorm quest chain?
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          Score 1.2     Vote: [-] [+] by Skiball, 2.4 months ago
          Last edit: 2.3 months ago
          Anyone know if it shaes cooldown with Dabiri's Enigma, the defense and shield block trinket from the Netherstorm quest chain?

          Just a side note it does NOT shae a cooldown with the charm of alacrity, the dodge trinket from the quest in Hellifre. You get it from "Screeming" Screed Luckeed, 49 74. Easy quest of killing the voidwalkers at around 45 84
          •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch
            Score 2.9     Vote: [-] [+] by trigder, 1.7 months ago
            I have killed moroes over 20 times and never seen this one drop... drop rating is even worse than sun eater's imo..
          •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch
            Score 2.0     Vote: [-] [+] by Tauren Rogue, 1.0 month ago
            Dropped for me maybe on the 3-4 time in Kara. Me and a warrior rolled for it, and I won. It's really nice and puts my terrible dodge up to 45-50% when I use it. Saved my big bear ass many times since.
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            Score 2.0     Vote: [-] [+] by toffeenose, 1.0 month ago
            I got this trinket on my first run of kara as a pally tank so there
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            Score 11     Vote: [-] [+] by cedarghost, 16.2 hours ago
            I have been running Kara trying to get this for three months. He finally dropped it last night and both a warrior and a pally rolled for it beside myself (feral druid). Needless to say I lost. We usually go by the class listings on raidloot.com, and for this item, it is listed as primary for any tank. I wish I had said something. This is SORELY needed by druid tanks as we don't have a shield or panic button when we start taking big hits. Dodge is our only defense (besides being uncrittable/uncrushable). I'm not mad at the guys for rolling (I may have too in their shoes unless I knew my guildmate had been trying to get it for months), this is just my two cents worth...
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