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Attumen the Huntsman (Karazhan) dropped it today

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These bracers are way better than the green ones from nether storm. If you block 4 times you will block 120 dmg which more than makes up for the stam loss. These also have more defense than the area 52 bracers especcially with a +defense gem.

block value also increases Shield Slam damage and threat generation (SS is instant, with a CD, where as HS is a 'next swing' attack.).

With full sheild spec warrs get another 30% (I think Pali's also can put points into this talent). I can block for around 350 DMG per and I dont even that all that much BC gear yet ... I know other tanks can block around 400 and up, so its pretty key when the boss is crushing you for 2K per shot (and more).

Blocking also seem to work on some ranged attacks as well...

I can crit for over 1K DMG with my blocking gear, its not a lot, but then you realize my shield does that much damage, it really aggroz those mobs :)

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you are very lucky if you get hit for 2k crushing. curator hits me for4k crushing, maiden for 5k and moroes for 3k. and i have all karazhan tank loot with blue gems...
tho i agree with shield block value being imba. bracers from area 52 nerfed to 24 st instead of 42

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  Score 9.3 Vote: [-] [+] by Stimman, 1.1 years ago
  Prot pallys don't stack int.

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That, from what I can tell, this is the only class-specific drop in Karazhan BESIDES the Tier 4 tokens.

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      Score 0.00 Vote: [-] [+] by StriderV, 12.1 months ago
      Well, stop passing.. (unless you CAN'T take it)
      
      in 2.1 it drops the "warrior only" identifier.
      
      I'm just hoping that if and when it drops for my guild that they won't have a problem with me rolling on it (assuming no tank warriors are around that need, but I think they all have already anyway).
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    Score 3.5 Vote: [-] [+] by zachari, 1.1 years ago
    Warriors can also dish out a lot of damage, our top DPSer is a dual wield fury warrior, he makes rogues and even mages look bad. Any class can be utilised to do what the player wants - within reason of course, we're not gonna seen any mage tanks of course but those classes that are more versatile will perform whatever role their player wants
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      Score 0.96 Vote: [-] [+] by societyskates, 10.2 months ago
      agreed.
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      Score 0.00 Vote: [-] [+] by vanyel, 9.0 months ago
      Funny you mention that, we used a mage to tank a molten giant oneday just for giggles. We kept her alive too :p
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These dropped for me in kara today. As I was the only one in plate, I got them. Since I'm a Paladin tank and block value isn't as big of a deal as it is for warriors, I decided to continue using my Bracers of the Green Fortress instead. Dodge > Block value imo, although the socket on the Vambraces is nice to have.

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Seems to be part of some kind of Karazhan 'set'. At least items with matching graphics.

Vambraces of Courage
Crimson Girdle of the Indomitable
Iron Gauntlets of the Maiden
Eternium Greathelm
Wrynn Dynasty Greaves
Mantle of Abrahmis
Panzar'Thar Breastplate
Battlescar Boots

See also my screenshot with all the items on in the dressing room.

The belt, boots and braces are the matching tier 4 items,they don't match the non-set kara tanking gear. bellends!

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Score 1.2 Vote: [-] [+] by Bgrngod, 7.9 months ago
Yup. The boots/belt/bracers are just a slightly different color then the other 5 pieces from Kara. The color match is spot on with the Tier 4 Warbringer Armor.

the bladespire warbands from gruuls lair look more like the "set" bracers for the kara plate

Hmm... what's the best Enchantment to put on these bad boys? (They are a lovely upgrade from the NS greens I was wearing before... thank Gromm)

Best bracers till Gruul and better raiding instances, period.

"Class: Warrior" is gone. Pally tanks can use these now.

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Score 0.75 Vote: [-] [+] by Mystins, 5.4 months ago
You have no idea what you're talking about, and I'm assuming you're the one who lost the roll.

As of last patch, end game paladins can actually have more HP than warriors. Also, last time I checked, there were no huge differences in armor value between warriors and paladins. Maybe you confused warriors with druids?

While there are certainly differences between how these classes tank, you failed to mention any of them. These bracers are great for paladins, especially with the significant role block plays in paladin tanking.

This isnt the world of warcraft forums - go rant somewhere else.
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Score 6.7 Vote: [-] [+] by MalakaMan, 5.3 months ago
Last edit: 5.3 months ago
First of all, in a functioning Kara Raid there should be a trusted loot-master (or whatever it's called in English) and the ones who need these should roll for it! That is Warrior AND Paladin Tanks! Whoever wins is happy and the other one will get them next week or next time it drops. Simple as that!

I feel reminded of several of my recent expieriences. I am seeing many warrior players who are having a huge ego problem being an offtank or 2nd Tank in a raid. They bite their way to demanding the MT position at all cost, even if they are outgeared/skilled by another tank in the raid. Some do not see the only valid argument which is the success of the raid and not the spotlight shining on yourself!

I myself as Paladin Tank have involuntarily moved into the spot of being the MT for my Karazhan Raid. Simply because things go easier and we can run Kara extremely fast and with no CC except sometimes at Moroes or in emergency situations. The fact that 90% of Kara Mobs and many Bosses are undead gives Paladin Tanks a great Threat advantage.

The Warrior in my guild suddenly had huge ego problems saying that he does not want to stand around doing nothing (on trash mobs and e.g. Attumen) but slowly realized that benefit of the group is more important than ego bullshit. He did later on see how important he is for the group and how much he can contribute making things easier in situations like:
Tanking the maiden and having me decurse, helping with the astral flares at the curator, double tanking the skelletons at the opera event, double tanking in the opera, interrupting aran, double Tanking netherspite etc.

He was about to leave the guild and look for other groups but we were finally able to convince him of how important he is. Luckily he got the point and is now continuing. I am happy that my Warrior Teammate has overcome this ego bullshit and became even more valuable for the raid since he is a skilled and well geared tank and once we move into 25ers he is indisposable!

I am amazed how many Tanks and -in my expierience- especially Warrior-Tank-Players are having these initial Ego-Problems and need to be convinced of their importance. I have seen adults of 25+ of age litterally CRYING on the TS because they are jealous of people seemingly filling their spot and fail to realize their importance or are unwilling to step aside for the raids success if the situation calls for it.

I have NEVER seen Priest Players being jealous of Pallys, Druids or Shamans filling their spot here and there and being better healers depending on the situation. It really seems like the warrior class is played by a certain type of people.

Is this the same on US servers?

I am noticing that WoW is an interesting plattform for sociological/psychological studies.
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  - Report Quote Reply Re: Vambraces of Courage
    Score 3.2 Vote: [-] [+] by Mystins, 4.7 months ago
    Im sorry, but you seem to be mistaken. Paladin tanks don't use +healing, and honestly dont need +int either.
    
    Dont get PROTECTION (see the cap words) and HOLY paladins mixed up. Prot paladins will have nearly identicle gear to a warrior until t5 raiding. HOLY paladins use +INT, +HEAL, +SpCrit. PROT paladins DO NOT.
    
    I understand WoW is a game, and not everyone wants or cares to know all about it.. but any moron can figure out pretty quick that paladin tanks dont use +healing.. Please stop spewing your nonsense here. You aren't even close to being correct.
    
    And again, these bracers are good for paladin and warrior tanks alike. Considering the ease of getting them, they are a worthy substitute for the bracers of the green fortress.
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      Score -1.7 Vote: [-] [+] by Azpwns, 4.2 months ago
      god i love how ppl think pallys cant tank...botards
      
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  Score -2.4 Vote: [-] [+] by Adrenath, 2.3 months ago
  I think part of it is that warriors only have 2 routes open to them: dps (whether pvp or pve) and tanking, with no overlap in between. If you do one, you *cannot* do the other effectively. That being said, it's been my experience that in raids except for 25 mans, dps warriors aren't needed because the other classes will have much more useful abilties (sheep, sap, totems etc) or be unneccesary due to boss requirements (like Maiden's melee dps limit). This tends to make most end-game warriors protection specced, and feel entitled to protection-oriented plate drops, which leads to clashes with protection paladins should they be in the same group. Personally I prefer a MT/OT warrior/druid combo to avoid those issues.
  
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i am 70 prot pally, pally tanks need , shield block, lil intel, tons of def rating and tons of spell dmg, if ya def rating and ya spell dmg where 2 long bars they should be the same length.and also did i mention shield block,shield block shield block, these bracers are not "tankadin gear" however are awsome for a tankadin, my advise , if they drop and you dont have an epic pair of bracers yet(being these are the first epic "tank" bracers a tank could get in raid) then roll on them , win them , and wear them.period.

These bracers are great for a Protection Warrior or Paladin.

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