As you can see on the spell effect (nowadays) it DOES affect both melee AND ranged. :)
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Increased Ranged Attack Rate? by Delt, Score -0.80
Benefits? by outsmartass, Score -1.5
<Blank> by Astranged, Score -0.74 <Blank> by Ryon, Score -0.40 <Blank> by Dead-Eye, Score -0.37
Criticals by emperorzoltan, Score 0.00
Paid 9g25s for this did i get ripped off by joshuafeller, Score 0.00 there are worse things by CrazyJack, Score 0.34 how come... by throatwobblermangrove, Score -1.6
yeah that last guy is compeltely right...its for gloves and i have a counterweight on my slow wep so 4 percent is much better than 3 and the reagents r easy....just go grind STV for the plant and get in an instance with an enchanter to DE the shard for you or something easy peasy
Not so much by Newcha, Score -1.0
If a rogue has more than +5% chance to hit, this will equal to an extra +hit since it only affects the white damage.
For sword-rogues it is a tiny bit less worth since they have a chance to hit an extra time everytime they deal damage with a sword, this is an instant attack and depends on the hitchance, making +hit better. So if you want a higher white damage, this is the enchant you want, if you play pvp style with ambush and backstab you might want to look elsewhere.
casting by imadude, Score 0.00 What this doesn't effect by Newcha, Score 0.00
If you click on the effect for the enchantment ( http://thottbot.com/?sp=13928 ), you see these effects:
Effect 1 Apply Aura: Haste - Melee Value: 1 Effect 2 Apply Aura: Haste - Ranged Value: 1 So it does in fact have an effect upon your ranged speed based on what Thottbot has recorded. The same applies for the Arcanum of Rapidity's effect ( http://thottbot.com/?sp=22841 ) which means if you really wanted to, you could have a 3% increase in attack speed for melee and ranged. Now, is this worth giving up other potential enchants? I don't have that answer. no ranged increase? by sinfulxx, Score 0.00 Compare only with other glove enchants... by Axehilt, Score 0.33 Does it effect Druid Cat Form? by MightyCat, Score 0.33
correct me if im wrong by skugge, Score 0.00
everybody above is wrong, agility can not give the same effect as minor haste
agility gives crit change and dodge chance 1% increased attack speed is totally different, it increases the speed at which you attack (pretty self explanitory) IMO this is a good enchant for rogues, or any melee class. I would get this for my pre MC epic gloves, and then +agil on my NS or BF because it's pretty cheap, and +agil costs more
I just got 1% haste on gloves and it increased my ranged attack speed from 2.52 to 2.5 and melee attack speed from 2.78 to 2.76 on my paper doll. I'm thinking it may be more significant of a bonus with Rapid Fire and Quick Shots.
I tested it on 3 weapons: Brain hacker 2.10, seeping willow 3.60 and a lorespinner dagger 1.50
If you look at your character window and right click on your DPS you can see that your weapon speed will be different than the one if you click on your weapon. For example: My Brain Hacker has a speed of 2.10 but in the DPS window it say 2.08. This also slightly increased the DPS because weapons speed is factored in when calculating DPS. I think this was a worth while enchant for me because when a Shaman malee he/she need all the help they can get. Any advantage no matter how small is an advantage. It was like having an extra swing per fight. Just my 2cents Alp Decreases burst damage? by Nerell, Score -1.5
So my main is a fury warrior with duals. He's always at over 200 dps in combat (shown on his charatcter window) and when his Crusaders kick in and other buffs he can top 400, then u add in his nearly 30% crit...
I think a 1% attack speed has gotta be worth 5 dps on average for me, though there is no way to really know. The +7 STR glove enchant gives me around 1.5 dps. The 15 agility would give about .75% increase crit chance is the only thing that comes close. Buffs, enchants etc that add %'s rather then a fixed amount really create leverage as you advance. I have this enchant and the muuuch more expensive Librams of Rapidity on my head and legs. I'm not much good in duels because I'm such a one sided character (hardly anything extra for AC or HP) but in instances working with a good tank I always do the most damage. If that is your goal and you're a fury warrior get this enchant. Given that agility helps a rogue in more ways then just crit %, it's a tougher call but I wouldn't be suprised if this overlooked enchant is better for them too. For the slow people... by ChiztheMiz, Score -0.54
Analysis by Syrsa, Score -1.3
Tanking? by Blackhide, Score -0.53
quite obviously, this enchant will increase your dps by 1% if all you do is right click on your target, ie auto attacking. this makes it very nice for combat classes that dont use instant attacks. as burst damage is not affected, id think this would be more suited to pve than pvp (where +agi or +str enchants would probably be more useful).
personally id like this enchant (in pve) on a hunter, where 1% damage applies to basically everything except multishot, and also on a shamman, where 1% haste is 1% dps (except for stormstrike shamman). even flurry should make no difference, as all haste mods are becoming multiplicative after 1.12, so stacking haste does not have the same diminishing affect as stacking crit. for rogues, allot of your damage is from instant attacks and burst damage is even more important for rogues for pvp, so i wouldnt advise it. for fury warriors, this may be useful (in pve) with slightly more rage etc, but i cant really comment as i have little experience with warriors. Weapon Speed by hc00jw, Score -4.9
It's not about the 100th hit against a mob, it's about the 1st, and the 2nd, and every hit after that.
My statement about increasing DPS was correct. You will now be hitting the enemy faster, but dealing the same amount of damage per hit. That means that you will down an enemy quicker than you would have normally. That means that on average, you deal more damage every second! DPS stands for Damage Per Second. DPS = Damage/Time. So, killing a mob twice, once without and once with this enchant, you will have more DPS with, because you've dealt the same amount of damage, only dealt it quicker... That's means, even if you kill it in 2 hits, your DPS was better! The only thing is of course, my statement about it increasing the DPS of a slower bow isn't right... It does speed it up by a greater amount than the slower bows, because the percentage of the speed to increase is greater, but the DPS increase is the same for both a slow bow, and a fast bow, with the same DPS. Also, this is the only enchant that I know of increases your damage by a percentage, rather than a fixed amount... For a hunter, 7 Agility = 14 Attack Power = 1DPS, end of. For this enchant, it makes each of your hits land with more speed... So, the more you buff your damage per hit (better weapons, and the +weapon damage items listed in previous post), the more this enchant will benefit you! Going back to the DPS formula (DPS = Damage/Time), this is because agility modifies the DPS part (altering the damage in retrospect to compensate), stuff like scopes and Might of Cenarius modify the damage portion, and haste items modify the time portion... Meaning that the +dmg items are also percentile based! so for a 35 combat rogue - by gajackson1, Score -1.4
i just got the 1% libram on my helm, which suprisingly gives a cool kind of golden glow. the 1% rapidity libram increased my "white" autoshot dps on my paperdoll from 218.0 to 220.2. how much agility would it take to get 2.2 dps? lol. a whole lot. 14 agil=1dps, and almost .5% crit. the crit is very valuable, yes. but the mats for 15agil are a little pricey. i may just resell them. this enchant also speeds up my procs, just as the warriors said their flurry procs more, my improved aspect of the hawk (15% faster shots) procs alot more often. i cant wait to get field marshal legs to put another arcanum on them too!
All wrong! by Torokhan, Score -7.6 Re: Spell 13948 by shavushkin, Score -6.4
imagine the shortness of this thread if it were +2% haste
Has anyone factored in poisons for Rogues in this already too long thread? The faster your weapons are, the more often you have a chance to inflict poison. Weapon speed is very important for a dagger rogue. Unless every weapon really swings at the same rate and gets "extra swings" after a given period of time to reflect weapon speed, in which case that length of time would determine the usefulness of this enchant.
I doubt this is the case though because in game play while using 2 different weapons with two different speeds the swing rate is obviously different between the weapons. And the description for this enchant describes a difference in weapon speed, not total number of attacks, or number of extra attacks..... Re: Spell 13948 by rpy1991, Score 0.48
There is no need to calculate dps as you can compare it in character screen weapon damage tooltip before and after enchant. I did it myself so I'll post it here.
-- scenario 1 MH weapon: Talon of Azshara OH weapon: Merciless Gladiator's Quickblade Gloves enchant: Assault (26AP) AP: 1639 MH Average DPS (from tooltip): 212.3 OH Average DPS (from tooltip): 165.0 -- scenario 2 MH weapon: Talon of Azshara OH weapon: Merciless Gladiator's Quickblade Gloves enchant: Minor Haste AP: 1613 MH Average DPS (from tooltip): 212.4 OH Average DPS (from tooltip): 165.1 So 1% haste IS better than 26AP and it even scale better as your AP goes up. But note that this affect only your white damage. Re: Spell 13948 by Liiqdizn00kii, Score -48.0 Blizz is screwed up with this enchant. by tangara45, Score -19.9 where? by moondorson, Score -17.4 Poison & Other Factors by Tomza, Score 0.00 Does it work in catoform? by Giga Soul, Score 0.55
Re: Spell 13948 by MassMan, Score 0.00 HELP PLZ by taxman619, Score 0.00 Re: Spell 13948 by L2READNOOB, Score 0.58 Re: Spell 13948 by L2READNOOB, Score 0.59 Re: Spell 13948 by Age93, Score 0.58 Re: Spell 13948 by masrock, Score -10.1
mele haste is level scaled so if you search thottbot for melee haste you can see that at level 10 a increase of .38 rating = 1% increase in melee speed and at level 19 this is approxamately 10% melee speed increase
this enchant is almost useless for high lelevs because it takes around 20 rating for 1% increase in melee speed
does this bonus work while shapeshifted?
hey, i am making a lvl 19 hunter twink, and i know 15 agi si the best, but i am wondering, would this combined w/ 10 haste rating to head increase my ranged speed by a lot if i were to use the WC bow, venomstrike?
Haste is always good against casters, the faster your hits the longer it takes for a caster to release a spell.
On a lvl 59 hunter: Precisely Calibrated Boomstick (1.5 speed) Gnoll Skin Bandolier (15% speed increment) Improved Aspect of the Hawk (15% attack speed increment) Serpent Swiftness (20% attack speed increment) Rapid Fire (40% attack speed increment) Minor Haste (1.5% attack speed increment) Librahm of Rapidity (1.5% attack speed increment) .65 speed, caster gone and never released a timed spell! You would be no longer a hunter, you would be a gangster. Re: Spell 13948 by mikhailk, Score 0.00
For horde were can this encahnt be found.
This increases your attack speed SO much on a level 1.
Getting this enchant on a pair of level 1 gloves and giving them to your level 1 toon will totally make leveling go faster. And combine it with the Cobrahide/Nethercobra kit and you'll crit like there's no tomorrow as well. Heres a easy way to put it. by FrostFlames, Score 0.00 Add Comment
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