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um, i know im going to sound noob here but what does hit chance even do exactly do??? spells don't miss or anything so? does it decrease chance it will be resisted or something?

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Score 16 Vote: [-] [+] by animi, 2.4 years ago
Yes, it decreases the chance your spells will be resisted.

During boss encounters, the boss has a 17% chance to resist your spells. 1% of that cannot be mitigated, but the other 16% can be mitigated through gear that has +spell to hit.

You need 202 +spell to hit to maximize the chance your spells will not be resisted by bosses, since 1% resist = 12.6 +spell to hit rating.
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  Score 0.00 Vote: [-] [+] by BrianKJ, 2.2 years ago
  Notice that mages can use 5 talent points in Arcane Focus (found in the arcane tree) to reduce the chance that opponent resist your spell by 10%.
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    Score 0.87 Vote: [-] [+] by talyn78, 1.3 years ago
    also keep in mind that locks can spend 5 talent points under affliction in suppression wich lowers chance to resist affliction spells by 10%
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Score 5.3 Vote: [-] [+] by Methestos, 2.4 years ago
Spells miss. For a mage, a missed spell is reported as "resisted". When fighting mobs whose level is low relative to yours, your chance for a spell to miss is minimal. However, fighting a boss several levels ubove you can result in a large portion of the player's spells missing.

Ty for explaining that

Yes thank you all for these posts. Was very useful.

so does that mean that 12.6 +hit rating = 1% damage?

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Score 1.2 Vote: [-] [+] by teuton, 10.1 months ago
im wondering it too.. and i found this http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell_hit
they said :
"For casters, 1% of additional hit amounts to about 1% additional damage statistically, up to the cap based on level of the mob being attacked"
is that mean that u'll get more dmg from spell hit rating?

To be clear (correct me if I am wrong), fire and ice mages want 202 +hit, which would be a 16% damage increase in boss fights. Arcane/ice mages want a minimum of 76, if they are using mostly arcane spells. A little more will be good because, your icebolt alternated with arcane blast, will create a mana efficient raid sequence that takes advantage of the warlock ice debuff. As a corollary, you should not spec fire in raid until you have a decent +spell hit rating, ~150 to start. As a mage, I never ever roll on gear that doesn't have either +crit or +hit. (Arcane/fire is too inefficient to discuss as a raid spec.)

This may also be a stat used by destruction warlocks, but warlocks are a mystery, who knows. Quote from other forum :: "If you don't have 16% hit as a destruction warlock, you aren't anywhere near the top of the damage meters."

I should imagine that +hit and +crit would be almost useless for shadow priests and affliction warlocks, who should instead go for the highest base damage. As affliction warlock or shadow priest, I'd be passing on gear with crit and hit, instead favoring purely +dmg. It's a shame that there are not more types of gems for these classes, who will mostly not get the socket bonuses, because of using all +dmg gems.

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Score 0.99 Vote: [-] [+] by Ferathu, 1.1 years ago
well, you will be corrected.....

Elemental Precision, which is found in the frost tree for mages, increases chance to hit by 3% (given you take 3/3 points in the talent), meaning; fire/frost mages will need less than 202 hit rating.

same goes for arcane/frost. arcane subtlety + elemental precision = increase for both spell trees, not just arcane.

on another note; people asked earlier if the 16% hit cap gave an increase of 16% damage.

Bosses marked with a skull (instead of a lvl-indicator, like the trash-mobs) are categorized as 3 lvls above 70, and have a base amount of 17% spell resistance. get 202 hit rating (hit cap), and that resistance is decreased to 1%, meaning; you get a "possible" 99% increase in your dps/damage, not just 16%.

Shadowpriest require a good amount of Spell Hit
I don't recall the charts but with the 4 point talent I still require around 75 spell hit rating as a shadow priest

moonking druids can gain a potential 4% from quite deep in the talent tree, leaving about 151 to have.
however, improved feary fire is +3% for everyone else, so a moonkin means a free 36 hit rating to AP users, assuming they are hardcore raiding spec. (on a side note, as moonkin is a supporting class, this may well be worth getting)

Then a Spell hit is only PvE Stat?
And what about with spell penetration?
Can anyone example me that?

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Score -1.8 Vote: [-] [+] by kurozukin, 1.8 years ago
Last edit: 1.8 years ago
If somebody has 20 resistance and you have 20 spell penetration, it will negate that resistance. also you can't have "negative" resistance.

Spell hit on the other hand is different, and most likely a more important stat for pve.

Why is spell hit good? imagine casting a 4 second soul fire and it doesn't hit! That wastes a 1 minute cooldown, a soul shard and completely destroys your dps.

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  Score 2.4 Vote: [-] [+] by harne, 1.8 years ago
  Casting Soul Fire at all is what is ruining your dps.
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    Score -1.5 Vote: [-] [+] by syntheus, 1.5 years ago
    
    Casting Soul Fire at all is what is ruining your dps.
    
    I get Soul Fire to crit for over 10k, so yeah it's worth casting from time to time.
    
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sorry, if this is very noob, but for a mage, do elemental precision and arcane focus stack (would it be + 6% hit on arcane spells if you use 3 points in both)?

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