I don't understand. It makes you attack faster?

This post was written for rogues but make sense.  Attack speed is not understood.


I'm a level 10 rogue. My attack power is 61.  Eviscerate does 35 to 47 damage at level five action point.



If you are going attack power use Eviserate.  If you are weapon damage use else.  If you have a slow weapon that hits hard then slice and dice seems good.


My weapon attack speed is 1.4.  My weapon only does 11 damage.  Every second my knife does 1 divide 1.4 damage * weapon damage of 11.  Mine is .714*11 = 7.86 damage per second.

7.86 * 1.2 = 9.43 *where 1.2 equal slice and dice.  That means slice and dice adds 9.43-7.86=1.57 so 1.57 extra damage per second.  The top rank of slice and dice is 21 seconds.  21 sec x 1.57 extra damage is 33 damage from slice and dice.

At this time my weapon sucks.  A better weapon makes the damage from slice and dice nice plus you can't miss.  You target yourself.

35 - 47 damage from Eviscerate
33 damage from Slice and dice
Once my level six white weapon changes to a blue powerhouse, slice and dice makes sense.

Burst damage is nice but not when you keep missing.


*where 1.2 equal slice and dice is where you substitute.  Slice and dice adds 20% haste.  Haste +10 is like 1.01 instead of 1.2

Permanent haste makes sense over attack power.  Sometimes.  I hit quicker but not as hard.  I miss but hit you more often.

im a lvl 80 rogue. and this is what i think about haste rating

haste rating = AP

but the problem with haste rating is u gotta stack a hell of it to really feel the different and haste rating gear is not easy to find.

usually haste rating gear doesnt give crit rating. i think because the outcome dps from haste is about the same as stacking crit rating.

so if u think AP > crit % , then go stack haste rating, with the amount of AP u have + haste is awesome

if u like ur crit % and wanna keep it really high, then forget about haste rating. bcause u cant have both , the gear wont let u

So on the ptr, I geared my rogue with all the haste and speed increasing buffs/abilities I could think of for the sole purpose of making my offhand as fast as possible.

2 mongoose procs = 10%
slice and dice: 45% w/ tier 6 bonus
3.1 passive haste 10%
heroism 30%
blade flurry 20%
gemming, enchanting, gearing for haste = 15.5%
hyperspeed accelerators - 10%
haste potion - 12.2%

with a 1.3 speed offhand.

1.3/((1+(10/100))(1+(45/100))(1+(10/100))(1+(30/100))(1+(20/100))(1+(15.5/100))(1+(10/100))(1+(12.2/100)))

=0.33 weapon speed.

3 attacks per second :3 combat potency was quite pleased.

I love the ptr, you can do awesome expensive time consuming crap like this :D

Is this just for rog's?  Shouldn't it help Hunters as well??

is haste good for mages? I see it on a lot of mage gear.