draenei, eredar, essentially same thing. draenei just followed velen the divine, while eredar joined sargeras.

as for invincible, nihilum clearly proved that eredar really aren't that.

yeah and in the history says that Sargeras offered the three leader of the eredar race, Kil'Jaeden, Archimonde, and Velen untold power against their loyalty. then Velen ran off with som Exiled One, or Draenai. then Sargeras turned the eredar to demons. (they're bigger and got red skin som of em).

Archimonde
Level: ?? Elite (Boss)
Type: Demon (Man'ari Eredar)
Health: 4,700,000 HP

Illidan
Level: ?? Elite (Boss)
Type: Demon
HP: 5,700,000

Yeaaaahhhh...Umm lets look at there ability's!

Archimonde
Might of the Defiler - Smashed into the ground for 6000 fire damage, and 3000 every second for 10 seconds.

Grip of the Legion - 250,000 damage over 5 mins. [833.33dps].

Finger of Death - 20,000 shadow damage on a single target. Archimonde will begin casting this if nobody is in melee range.

Soul Charge - All damage taken increased by 50%. Non-dispellable.

Doomfire - Leaves a trail of fire on the ground, which does 2400 fire damage per second (occasionally feared people run into these and die)

Illidan
Shear: Reduces the maximum HP of the target by 5%. Stacks 19 times. Noted by jumping away and diving back towards the target.

Flame Crash: Illidan leaps into the air and returns suddenly igniting the ground beneath him, staying out of the fire is vital.

Soul Drain; Illidan sucks the soul from a raid member, causing high damage and healing him for 100,000hp.

So Which is Harder? O_O

Everyone having at least a mediocre knowledge about Warcraft history will immediately know that Archimonde is BY FAR the mightiest boss in the game. Illidan wouldn't stand a chance against him.

You know, I always wondered something...
how is Archimonde weaker than Illidan in WoW?

Seeing after all, Archimonde blew up a city by drawing stuff in some sand :/

  Okay here is the story on the Burning Legion as a whole:
      Sargeras was a titan chosen by the elite titans(Pantheon) to rid the worlds of demons. Eventually Sargeras basically went insane from encountering countless demons and gradually suffering their corruption and went bad. In his adventure of doom :D, he found a advanced society of humanoids called Eredar. Now he was recruiting demons for a mass army to destroy everything now and, was impressed by the Eredar so he made an offer to the three leaders of the Eredar: Archimonde, Kil'Jaeden, and Velen. He told them he would give them untold power if they joined his Burning Crusade. So Archimonde and Kil'jaeden agreed, HOWEVER, Velen did not. Velen gathered the eredar that believed in his motives and left Argus, their home planet. They called themselves draenei, in their language, Exiled Ones. Sargeras gave the power to Archimonde, Kil'Jaeden and the other Eredar and the Eredar turned to demons. Archimonde and Kil'jaeden became Sargeras's top lieutenants.
  Now about the Lich King having power over them the idiot that said that is a NOOB! The Lich King was basically created by Kil'jaeden.

  Here is the story on that:
      As you know the orcs cheifs agreed to aid the Burning Legion by destroying Azeroth since Medivh (who had been possessed by Sargeras) offered that he would open Dark Portal if they destroyed Azeroth and the demons corrupted them.

HOLD ON INTERRUPTING THE STORY MUST SAY SOMETHING BOUT SARGERAS.
                Hes dead.
The Guardian Aegwynn killed him. Although his spirit bonded with her unborn son, Medivh.

OKAY BACK TO THE STORY.

So blah blah blah blah the First War happened then the Second War etc etc etc. Now after the Dark portal is closed! Ner'zhul, the elder shaman knew that since they failed to destroy Azeroth, the Burning Legion would be pissed. So he sent the orcs to Azeroth to get Artifacts that would let him open new portals to other worlds to escape the burning legion's wrath. So the orcs did that, but the Humans chased them through the Dark Portal  and the big battle etc etc Ner'zhul escapes with some orcs through one of his porals and...
                KABLAJAM!
  Draenor blows up most of the world is destroyed, all that remains is what is now known as Outland.
 
  Now Ner'zhul's plan didnt work so well, Kil'jaeden caught him anyways, and tortured him etc etc and turns him into the Lich King! Yay! Kil'jaeden sends the Lich King to azeroth to prepare Archimonde's invasion of the world.


And thats it.....oh yeah, the Lich king broke free of Kil'Jaeden when Archimonde and half of the Burning Legion was wiped out in the Battle of Mount Hyjal and his jailors, the Nathrezim (also known as Dreadlords) were killed by Arthas.


  Hoped that educated a few of you :D

illidan vs archimonde? u gotta be kiddin right?

"archimonde the defiler" one of most powerfull hero in warcraft lore. hes an eredar (warlock btw). left hand of GOD sargeras (other one is kil'jeaden). he destroyed dalaran. if u play w3 or read wowwwiki u'll be see what illidan did to kil'jaeden (ran away to outlands like a chicken). archimonde = kil'jaeden.

illidan is a wanker. yes he looks cool with his twin blades of azzinoth (prolly thats why he got a lot fan). hes nothing w/o his nagas (lady vash), blood elves (kael'theas) and stupid dreaneies (akama). again, if u play w3 or read wowwiki u'll be see how he lied to all his followers. he didnt get them to help him with his POWER. he lied at all. he wake up nagas for their help. he knew about blood elves how hungry to magic. he lied to kael "i'll give u magic etc.." then he lied (freedom to draneies) and helped to akama to beat magtheridon. when they beat magth illidan just killed every drenei in shadowmoon and made BT as his EQ (watch blizz's the black temple movie).

i know my english sucks but u should understand :D

i just shit my pants

Archimonde Dies cause MalFurion Nuked the World Tree With wisps Lol (just like the post above said),
even tho it look like it in the end of WC3: TFT, Illidan doesnt die, kael heals him with magic.

If u didnt know Sageras "Technically" gave Illidan his Powers because Illidan found "The Eye of Sageras" From Sageras's Tomb which Gul'dan rose from the sea.

Accually... Theres 2 reason Illidan is "The Betrayer" Since He Betrayed both The NE and The Burning Legion (Kil'Jeadan).

And Archimonde Destroyed Dalaran by Building a Sand Castle (with his demon magic) ^^ :P and destroying it.

Anyways Archimonde Would Rape Illidan, even tho im a Illidan Fan lol xP

Seriously... Have you played the Warcraft III The Reign of Chaos without cheats..? You don't seem to know anything about it atleast some of you. First, Illidan, with a new plan spurred into his mind, journeyed to Zin-Azshari. There he feigned allegiance to Azshara and Mannoroth. Illidan's plan was to obtain the Demon Soul, an artifact of great power created by Deathwing, which had the ability to close the portal which was allowing the demons to enter Kalimdor. However to put this plan in action, Illidan had to gain more power.

So, Illidan was taken to Sargeras, the Destroyer of Worlds. Sargeras "gifted" Illidan by gouging his eyes out of his head, and replacing then with orbs of mystical fire, which let him to see all arcane powers in the world...

BUT that's not the way he gained his demonic powers... After the Burning Legion invasion had started and Tyrande Whisperwind had set Illidan free to fight amongst them against the Legion, Illidan was ordered to seize the demonic portal from spawning more demons in the Azeroth.

He knew he could not destroy Tichondrius, (the greatest Burning Legion dreadlord agents) but he took the mission and set up the base camp near the portal. When he was fully settled and started fightning the demons and satyrs, he suddenly met the now-corrupted Dead Knight Arthas, who told him that the demons were protecting a powerful artifact called The Skull of Gul'dan. (or was it Guldan..?) Anyway.

He didn't trust the Death Knight, but he had to convince himself, and so he ventured to the mountain where Skull of Gul'dan was held by mindles   

Yeah continuing the story :P

by mindles pawns of the Legion. Illidan quickly destroyed all the demons guarding the Skull and consumed its powers and adding them to his. He became   
a Demon Night Elf. Then he killed Tichondrius with ease and seized the portal. But when Furion Stormrage and Tyrande Whisperwind arrived to the spot, they saw that Illidan was corrupted by the powerful demonic magics of the Skull of Gul'dan (Just as you know, Gul'dan was a powerful orc warlock) and then Furion banished Illidan away from his home and beloved ones.

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ILLIDAN VS ARCHIMONDE

Archimonde won with 70% HP, Pretty much Pwn't Illidan due to his immunity to Shear...Took the most damage during Illidan's Demon Form...Illidan got screwed the moment Archimonde moved so doomfire came out...


Warcraft 3

ILLIDAN VS ARCHIMONDE

No Contest, Finger of Death obliderated Illidan...

Warcraft 3

KIL'JAEDEN VS ARCHIMONDE

This I looked VERY VERY Forward too...Archimonde won because Kil'jaeden had no stats to make him All super powerfullish...He was basically just a model...

At this point we need to ask ourselves,"Who really cares what Archimonde or our friend Mr. Stormrage did in WarCraft 1, 2, or 3?" If I'm playing WoW and my character is being roasted alive by Archimonde's numerous fire AoE attacks and such, the last thing I should care about (to some extent), is how Archimonde lost to Chuck Norris in an arm-wrestling contest or how he saw Illidan naked in the shower. It's all a bunch of stuff blizzard made up so they could put a 10-story-tall-pinkish-purple-octopus-man-hybrid on top of a mountain and nobody would question why. It's good to know why a 10-story-tall-pinkish-purple-octopus-man-hybrid is trying to murder you, but is it really going to help you in the game?

Whoa. Sorry about that. I just kind of got carried away. I stick by my statements in the previous paragraph (regardless of how little sense it may make). My point leads to the following:

Soon, we will be able to kill Archimonde or Illidan, and they will drop some honest-to-god kick-ass gear.

Archionde
Type: Demon, Eredar
Level ?? (Boss)
Health: 4,700,000
Location: Caverns of Time, Hyjal Summit
<Burning Legion Leader>

Spells:

Might of the Defiler: 6,000 damage to a single target, 3,000 damage every second for 10 seconds. Total damage: 36,000
DPS: 600
Type: Curse

Finger of death: 20,000 shadow damage to a single target.
DPS:
When it starts: When Archimonde has noone in melee, he starts zapping players with his finger.
Type: Shadow damage.
DPS: About roughly 2,100.

Grip of the Legion: 250,000 damage over 5 minuntes.
DPS: 833.33
Type: Curse

Soul Charge: Increases damage taken by 50%. If Archimonde hits you for 5,300, that means he will hit for 2,650 more with the curse on you, hitting for 7,950 damage.
Type: Magic
Dispellable: No

Doomfire: Leaves a trail of fire doing 2,400 damage per second. Feared players run in these fires and die.
DPS: Something like 240.

Illidan
<The Betrayer>
Level ?? (Boss)
Type: Demon
Location: Black Temple, Outland
Health: 5,700,000

Spells:

Shear: Reduces targeted players' health by 5%. Lasts 19 stacks. Approximate health reduced with 19 stacks: 95%. If you have 10,000 health, then with all shear on you will have a frail 105 health left.
Type: Melee, stack

Flame Crash: Leaps into the air, crashes down, and makes a flame when he lands. Stay out.

Soul Drain: Illidan sucks the target's soul, giving him back 100,000 health as possible. Put on full DPS to take the 100,000 health away and continue normal DPS.

Archimonde is harder. His armor is godly, divine, check WC3.
Illidan has more health, he is the endgame boss. He is weaker, though.
Imagine Arthas...
Let me see... I'll just guess the spells and such. ^^

Arthas
<The Lich King>
Location: The Frozen Throne, Northrend
Type: Death Knight, former human prince, now Lich King.
Health: (Maybe) 12,000,000

Spells: (Maybe this will be them)

Death Coil: Hits targeted player for 40,000 shadow damage. Uses this when players are doing no DPS for 5 seconds or more.
Type: Shadow
Cast time: Maybe 4 seconds
DPS: Maybe 910.

Animate Dead: Ressurects all undead units around him. The undead units have damage reduced by 95%, speed by 50% and last for 60 seconds. Have 150% more health.

Frostfire: Freezes the target. The fire in the player will expand, dealing 5,000 damage every 0.50 seconds for 2 seconds.
Type: Magic, Frost/Fire
DPS: 400

Unholy Aura: Uses at 50%. Regenerates all damage done to him into health. Cast a spell or hit him every 5 seconds or so, because he will use Death Coil Volley. (See below).

Death Coil Volley: Hits all players for 50% of their health and drains 7,000 mana, also stunning for 4 seconds. Arthas will be stunned and out of combat for 10 seconds, not regenrating health, while the party members can drink and get ready for the rest of the fight.
DPS: 50% of players' health.

Wrath of Ner'Zhul: Deals 50,000 damage to main tank. Usable twice if aggro is not high enough.
DPS: Roughly 1,000.

Wrath of the Lich King: Kills targeted player. Any player close to the corpse loses 25% health and 50% mana per 2 seconds. Stay away.

Call of Frostmourne: Frostmourne goes into one of the icicles and makes them fall all around the area. Bring the sword to 50% and it will split, giving Arthas two weapons for 20 seconds. The falling icicles do 1,000 damage and 4,000 frost damage over 5 seconds.

Bloodthirst: Enrages. Uses at 10%. Each player he kills then restores 5,000 health, gives him 1% more damage and health, increases all his stats by 2%, and gives him 50% faster cast time, along as 50% more likely to attack the raid healers.
Also, makes him more likely to cause Death Coil. Lasts 50 seconds. Non-dispellable.
Type: Magic

The End. Those are the endgame bosses. I guesses Arthas's statistics, so let's see. I'll preview some weapons of Arthas later on this same thing. Let me think. ^^
I'm smart, eh? :D

We beat Archie already but he's still getting on my nerves every week, and makes me question my guild's intelligence. This fight makes it very easy to point whoever caused the wipe.

I don't get why this fight has to be so hard for everyone (including my team). I don't consider myself an exceptional player, and I often die of stupid mistakes. But on Archimonde, dying means a wipe. So I don't die.

I drink pots, healthstones, shield myself and do everything to not f**ing die. I've never caused a first soul charge and it drives me nuts seeing the same people on my group causing 3 soul charges a night.

Archie's abilities don't 1-shot people, they're mostly DOTs. You have AMPLE time to do something about that health you lost or about to lose. So do something about it.

If you're a retridin, stop the pewpew and heal self till you go OOM if that's necessary. Same goes for shadowpriests. Leave shadowform if that's what keeps you alive for 5 more sec till a healer gets to you. Enh shamans, heal self.

Stop caring so much about your DPS and start watching your health bar instead.

Allow me to explain the story.

Minleneas ago the eredar were a peaceful race and lived on there homeworld of argus, they were powerful weilders of magic, whihc caught the attention and impressed sargeras a titan that held power imagenable. Sageras came down from the twisting nether and offered the 3 eredar leaders velen,archimonde and kil'jaeden untold power in exchange for loyalty to the new burning legion (do to the fact he was deeply impressed in thier current abilitys). Archimonde and Kil'jaeden immeadiatly accepeted the offer but velen didnt accept it in a concerning vision. Later velen used his powers to see the future and saw how sargeras was trying to use ARchimonde and Kil'jaeden as leaders of the burning legion and had relized how much destruction this would bring the whole cosmos.

Note: that sargeras not only offered the leaders of the eredar untold power, but also the residents of there base on argus. Another note is that there are 2 eredar types the wrathguard and man'ari, the man'ari being the supreme type and wrathguard lesser honor guards for the legion.

Continueing the story...
In a rush Velen tryed his best to convince of what was really going on and were able to leave safefully with there new alligance with the light born race the naaru seeing and also going against what Sargeras was really doing.The eredar under Velen's order were now called dreani (called exiled onesin eredun the legions offical language also known as demonic). Mean while Sargeras had corrupted and turning half of the eredar race into demons. Kil'jaeden thinking Velens leave was a betrayel to the eredar nation went into a blinded rage and chased the diamond naaru ship of oshu'gun( which today in WoW is siting in nagrand)throughout the cosmoes. This was when kil'jaeden and archimonde received there titles <The Deciever> and the <The Defiler>. Yet Velen and the naaru were more cunning than Kil'jaeden and instantly disappeared in a flash. Note: that while Kil'jaeden was on the chase at the dreani and naaru he encountered quite a few planets a long the way and stopped by most of them and corrupted some of the inhabitants into demons...

To be continued...