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    Score -16.2     Vote: [-] [+] by neferiel, 1.4 years ago
    N-O-R-M-A-L-I-Z-E-D
    it means, that what you want to look at is MEDIAN DAMAGE ON ATTACK RANGE! slow/fast mh doesn't MATTER! noremalized attacks have now changed that! Augh!

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      Score 0.60     Vote: [-] [+] by Arska, 1.4 years ago
      rofl, slow main hand is must for rogues
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          Score 0.77     Vote: [-] [+] by byiar, 1.3 years ago
          Yes, white damage is the same,but your SS hits will be harder with a slower MH. Get your fact straight before you post.
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            Score 4.9     Vote: [-] [+] by cavendar, 1.3 years ago
            You're both sort of right and sort of wrong.

            Strictly speaking, because of normalization, the weapon speed does not matter. But it's not the dps value that you want to look at, it's the avg base dmg of the weapon. If you have two weapons with the same dps but different speeds, what that means is that the slower one will have a higher base dmg so that's the one you want in your MH. However, if you had two weapons and the faster one also had a higher avg base dmg, you would choose the faster one because again it's the base damage that matters, not the speed.

            Off hand of course is the opposite. There you want fast as possible because very few rogue special attacks involve the offhand, the only one that you can do with a sword is Shiv and for Shiv you again want the fastest weapon possible to reduce the energy cost. Higher dps is actually not as important as speed for off hand because the offhand suffers from the damage penalty, isn't involved in your specials, and has the primary purpose of hitting as often as possible to get as many combat potency, poison, other chance on hit procs as possible.

            If you still don't get it, then stop worrying about it and just get the coolest looking weapons you can.
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                Score 0.55     Vote: [-] [+] by Johannon, 1.1 years ago
                Next time, contextualize what's actually written. His sentence reads "If you have two weapons with the same dps but different speeds... the slower one will have a higher base dmg so that's the one you want in your MH." So weapon speed is worthwhile only relative to its average damage, and no, nobody else "went WTF" after reading it.
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            Score 0.00     Vote: [-] [+] by djdramatikk, 1.2 years ago
            Weapon speed on 1h sword/mace is normalized at 2.4 on attacks such as Sinister strike, and isn't on Hemo, so it is still better to get a slower weapon than this for mainhanding on a Rogue regardless of being Hemo or Combat.
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      Score -0.87     Vote: [-] [+] by Prolix, 1.3 years ago
      Right, but normalization is for white damage hits.  Sinister Strike (bread & butter move for a Combat Sword Rogue) is an instant attack that adds on top of normal weapon damage.  Slower weapons have higher normal damage.  Noob.

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        Score 0.00     Vote: [-] [+] by djdramatikk, 1.2 years ago
        Actually, it's for instant attacks, not white damage. http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Instant_Melee_Attacks
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