you're thinking of Jin'rohk the destroyer of worlds, its weird that they look the same isnt it ?
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Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by Tuath, Score 0.00 Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by Laiher, Score 0.33
not trying to stick the hunterdick into this weapon cuz im not saying its a hunter weapon but does haste affect the ranged attack speed of a hunter?
reminds me of the ZG 2h sword off last boss called Zin'rokh something like that. Looks like it and names sorta the same
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Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by Kuuppa, Score -1.3 Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by L@you, Score -2.7
yes, this would make a good hunter weapon, but
all that hunters really look at is the stats on it, and a good hunter almost never melees, where as a ret pally or warrior, all they do is melee, making it more useful for melee classes. 570 top end damage is amazing for a 2H weapon, and it kills me to think that some hunter would be putting that to waste when a warrior could be using that every fight. as for your arguments that MS warriors are totally useless in raids, you are incorrect. like was stated before, they have the debuff that increases all physical damage taken by the target by 4%. on top of that, if you put them in a group with other warriors, they can stack shouts, and depending on the way they have specced (MS / fury so they have commanding presence), their shouts would be more effective than that of a purely prot specced warrior, which apparently is the spec everybody thinks that every warrior should be, despite the fact that MS and fury warriors make some of the best damage dealing classes in the game. or maybe, you all do realize that and are just jealous of that and possibly embarrased when you see that you are lower on the damage charts, so you all cry and say "nerf warriors to tanks blizz." in my opinion i think it is a load of bullshit when people say warriors aren't supposed to do dps, and the people who do say that are either a) people who can't move past pre BC when all warriors did was tank or b) disgruntled players who are mad at the fact that they have inferior dps than the warriors arond them anyway, i think it's a great weapon, and congradulations to whoever gets it and that ends my ranting session for the day
Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by lawlipwnretridins, Score -0.82
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Good for hunters, better for warriors and rets, and btw I have never been outdpsed by a hunter with similar gear level and I have been playing for 2.5 years as dps warrior...
Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by mbarno, Score 0.50 Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by Sirpigsworthy, Score 0.00 Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by lawlipwnretridins, Score -0.57
Yes, hunters should be able to roll on this.
HOWEVER!!! This is primarily a retadin/arms war weapon. Do you see rogues/wars rolling on epic ranged dps weapons when the hunters need them? Highly doubt it. The classes that get the most use of an item should be prioritized, which amazingly - means the OP class that hunter is needs to realize they need to sit back and not roll on every piece of melee gear there is and let those that MELEE get their upgrades before them.
Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by sillicus, Score 0.47 Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by Damnhunters, Score 0.50 Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by lawlipwnretridins, Score 0.00 Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by sillicus, Score 0.00
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Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by gameboywizzard, Score 0.50
As a Hunter, I would be against rolling for this unless no one except me needed it...
First 'o all, Trollbane is better but is indeed harder to get, but Trollbane oversteps this by a longshot... Let the Warrior/Paladin get this, and then have them use that to rape the boss for your Trollbane... As if you have this then step it up for Trollbane, you just wasted alot of time... If I had a good gun, another Hunter has a rifle that isn't as good as mine, I would let him have the upgrade, due to the increase of DPS for our raid that he would generate... Sure you loose a drop - But you get more DPS allowing you to raid Faster... Hunters shouldn't get this, go for Trollsbane
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Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by Richnixon, Score 0.56
The problem with the hunter class is that their are so many idiots out there that bring down our class and btw if a warrior using 2h wep is out dpsing a hunter then that hunter does not know how to play( a good fury warrior duel wielding is a different matter). Remember not all hunters are crap (90% probably are) and its unfair to have a dig at hunters that actually stack haste to get their ideal wep speed from a slow ranged wep. Remember haste mainly comes from BT/hyjal alot of players will not see them while they might well see and clear all of ZA (does not require 25 skilled players only 10) Theirs miles better weaps out there for warriors paladins and arguably hunters 2 specially the arena one but like I said if someones got their mind on stacking haste this would be the ideal melee wep for a hunter to go for. Enough said stop flaming hunters its not our fault majority of our class is other classes that failed rerolled and thought hunter would be ez mode :) .
Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by Rainiedevil, Score 0.37
This is an excellent hunter item (Stam+Haste+AP = hunter goodness!)!
As a dedicated prot warrior, I slapped on a minor beastslaying glow to it and wear it around town :D Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by novablade@darkspear, Score -20.6 Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by Pepitobenito, Score 0.52
Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by caervek, Score 0.00 Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by Pepitobenito, Score 0.00
Caervek while your statement carries some weight, it doesn't change the fact that Hunters are the only class (rare off-specs aside) that use 2h melee weapons in PvE primarily. Now, if a guild HAS this Blood Frenzy Warrior, and wants to gear them, as previously said, there are many other options available. If they are absolutely insistant on chosing a weapon that benefits Hunters greatly, then they should feel free to roll against them.
However, this whole "Warriors should get preference" thing is pure nonsense. Yes, Hunters use their 2h weapon for stats almost entirely, however those stats account for a great deal. In most cases, it's the weapon's stats, not the raw DPS, that you're after, whether you're a Warrior, Hunter or otherwise. Between our melee weapon(s) and our ranged weapon, we get, by far, the majority of our stats from the melee weapon(s). So how many classes do we have to pass to? 1h weapons to Rogues/Fury Warriors/Enhance Shamans and now all 2h weapons to 2h Warriors? I'm curious as to where Hunters are supposed to get this big chunk of stats we'd be missing (I'm guessing the scraps left over?). While the gain for this specific type of Warrior may be slightly higher than the Hunter's gain, to demand some sort of preference purely on that basis is wrong. Besides all that, my argument isn't even that Hunters should get preference here; I'm saying it should be a roll off. That is, provided the Warrior will use it for PvE. Rolling on PvP gear in raids is unacceptable, in my opinion.
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It is amusing in all honesty.
I would never roll on a bow despite its awesome stats vs a hunter, because regardless of how much I benefit from them as a warrior, a ranged weapon is a hunters primary weapon. The stats are excellent for a hunter, but regardless of them a hunter will never melee in a PvE environment. Retri pallies are raid viable. MS warriors are extremely raid viable and this weapon is excellent for both of them. So if either is present and has a need for it. They should get prio over hunters hands down.
Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by huntoro, Score -4.0 Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by sillicus, Score 0.00
I'm and MS warrior and got this last week. Im not gunna flame hunters that want this. But I would like them to think twice befor rolling over and Ret/MS. There are far better 2H's for a hunter Trollbane, the Arena PvP one and legacy and I can't see why there are so many hunters begging for this. Any hunter that can down Zul'jin will be in possition to get one of the other 2H's, so i cant see why they would even wanna roll on this in the first place. As to much haste gear = a broken rotation. I realy wish Blizz would put Agi or Str on all 2H weapons so that there wouldnt be these silly arguements over them.
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Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by Kang the Decapitator, Score -3.5
One of the above posters proposed that stormherald is significantly better because it is 3.8 instead of 3.7. Speed only matters because a higher speed requires higher top end damage to achieve the same amount of dps as lower speed weapons, which is useful for instant abilities. HOWEVER, speed ONLY matters insofar as it makes the top end damage higher. Stormherald's top end damage is 9 higher than jin'rohk, which is more than made up for by the extra attack power.
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1. Anyone can lie about what class they play/like the most
2. "It's an upgrade" isn't the only thing you should be considering. If I had to choose between a hunter who attends all raids and an MS warr/ret pally who can only make one or two days it should go to the hunter (or they should at least be allowed to roll on it). This kind of gear isn't class specific for a reason, same as Trollbane. You would hope people would be mature enough by the point they're raiding ZA to put the benefit of their guild above being an epic whore Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by sikness3r, Score 0.00 Re: Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse by ThatJoshKid, Score 0.00 Add Comment
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