Ok every talks about O these swords are garbage O they not worth it... i say cry me a river.... Before i started to lvl my rogue i was ina  group on my pallie in arcs and i see this avg. geared rogue but she had these 2 with mongoose enchant and she killed shit i was like wow i would rather grind mats for this then run something over and over and and over again just to be outrolled by A emo druid (Leather gear Meaning)....
Another thing that prolly makes it easy for me that i can make this on my main char Who is a warrior So i dnt have to look for some one who can make....but Either oR If u need somethign to prep urself for kara Or ZA This wouldnt be a bad investment Just so u wont be so undergeared in there I have full assassin and These 2 swords with mongoose on my rogue and i kill shit in PvE  So just think about it There is no telling how many times u will run kara for better personally i dnt want to spend the dkp On weapons i rather get better Gear (leather and trinkets and what not)........... wow this is long why do i do these things