ok i have a full shadow priest witch is lvl 40 and i burn threw mana  in groups like one or 2 polls and im out

i only ahve 2500-3000 mana i have like 160 or so shadow dmg

can ppl help give me some hints on how to save mana

what's your spell rotation look like?  you don't have vampiric touch yet, so you can't give yourself mana back that way...
put talents into mana cost reduction and focus on more int. would probably be the best way to go imo

Agree: save mana 1. using good spell sequence, 2. take mana saving talents and 3. get good gear.

Shadow will consume some mana indeed, but learn to play shadow your way and the problem can be overcome. Good luck!

OR you can drink after every pull? You dont have to start dsing right when the tank pulls... take a sec or 2 to drink up. Trust me, it may only be a few secs but it does help. Plus if its free mage water, why not? If that still doesnt help, yes respecing or instancing to grab better gear is ur best bet.

i seem to be doing better know that i got back in to the playing styel


tell em if these good i usaly fight like these

mind blast , SW:P , mind fly , mind fly , wand away

and maby another mind blast to kill

i seem to be doing better know that i got back in to the playing styel


tell em if these good i usaly fight like these

mind blast , SW:P , mind fly , mind fly , wand away

and maby another mind blast to kill

Hmmm i only play a lvl 40 priest but my seqeunce is


shadow word: pain, Mind flay,smite/mind blast, wand (I have a wand that doesnt give stats it just gives out good dmg


remember to keep innerfire and fort and shield up hope it helps


2700hp/4000mana


i dont realy need to conserve mana but its my stratigy an stuff dies alright.


300+ shadow dmg btw

Mind Flay costs so little mana it might as well be free for Christ's sake.  Go all out for a pull or two and then just grab a 3 second drink between pulls and spam Mind Flay till your mana gets full again.  Lather, rinse, repeat.

Oh and at some point you should put 18 points into Disc so you can get 30% mana regen while casting.

Yes, at 40 it can be tough. Just to let you know, I am 64 and can run instances all day without drinking unless I need to pop and off heal, so mana efficiency does get better when you get your discipline talents. For right now, I would just concentrate on keeping your shielding up and using mind flay or wanding when you can to enable you to regenerate for the next battle. It is always a balance between taking damage to regen mana and using spells to kill quicker. I believe when I was in my 40's I could do a few mobs and then drink/bandage. On the plus side, you will get to keep your cooking/first aid skills up!

Just get through it, it will get easier.

Regarding sequence, I would suggest Mind Blast-SW-P-Mind Flay-Mind Flay-up to you. If you pull with your mind blast you will maximize damage before the mob gets to you, and that is the whole point.

Yes, always pull with your biggest spell. When you get VT, though, alwyas pull with that since it will be your biggest spell over time and considering the mana regen.

At 68, my sequence is:

(shield)- VT - VE - SWP - Mind Flay - wand down

I take on mobs my level on down consequetively without stopping for mana. Only if I pull 2 or 3 do I need to drink after the fight. Unless you are in a brutal fight, always start with VT when grinding. I cannot even remember the last time I bought water, shadowpriests are that efficient.

the last post, i disagree about two things.
1. i usually use swp bofore VE, just because i have the imp swp talent so i want to get the most out of it
2. we are NOT mana efficent. its that simple. yeah, we have VT, but seriously. 5% is great for groups but for soling its almost nothing

VE is helpfull (as is VT), but not a real cure for mana deficiency indeed. However when I was playing shadow (respecced recently at 70) I alsways started with MB, VE + VT (sometimes VE + VT -> MB)and only then SW:P.... Why: simply because 1. these cost time and if you first cast SW:P, the mob may be already sitting on your face and 2. MB is the most powerfull spell, you may want to cast it a.s.a.p again.

I do agree that the DoT spells should be casted as early as possible, but in general the other spells will kill the mob.

i have a 70 shadowpriest, and let me tell you...shadowpriests are not exactly the most mana efficient class to play...but being in all epics makes it a bit easier =P

spell rotation for soloing = VT - SW:P - VE (if i'm low on health) - mind flay - wand - usually dead before they hit me

the trick is to back up while you're applying your instant dots so you have time to get a full mind flay in before they get to you

oh, and if you're a draenei, you get symbol of hope...if you alternate using that with your shadowfiend at the right times it's damn near impossible to go out of mana =D

Cocomana 70 SP Antonidos

If your playing a shadow priest at 70 and you have mana problems, you are playing your class wrong.  The point of your spec is to be a battery with VT for the rest of your group and you. 

As soon as i hit 70 i havn't needed water unless my shadowfiend is on a cooldown or i have been mana burned. Granted epic gear does help, but seriously if your complaining about mana effiecency theres something wrong.

the proble i have in groups is if i dont kill them i dont get the 100% spi and wen solo instances there usaly to low to give the SPI %

but TYs for the tipes :P

(srry for any miss spells)

guys i saw some of u taht just said taht they were :

VT ; Ve(if u dont have full hp) ; sw:p ; and then mind flay mind flay mind flay... and then sw:d to kill moob
That Mean u dont u Mind Blast!? isnt that teh most impotant spell of spriest?????????

I cannot parse your post AT ALL.  Can you please try posting it again if it's important?

hehe sorry but my keyborad is new... xP but i will try to post it again...


I saw in some of urs posts taht u said ... that u use VT then VE then Sw:P mind flay till end and then Sw:D whne he is nearly dead... u just forgot to say that u use mind blast or u dont rly use it???? Isnt Mind Blast really important???? =) ty

Mind Blast is good for maxing DPS, but it is one of the least mana efficient spells in a Shadow Priest's arsenal.  For soloing, mana efficiency will often have a tendency to trump sheer DPS because it prolongs longevity.  Chances are, for most mobs around your level, between VT, SW:P, Mind Flay, and SW:D, the mob is dead enough that the Mind Blast wouldn't be worth the mana over wanding and letting your mana regen a little.

Of course, it's hard for me to say since I haven't played as Shadow in a long time.

When you solo your spriest the VT+VE+MindFlay+MindFlay+MB+Wand to kill your mob quickly.
Or if you want to be more mana efficient then you would VT+VE+SW:P+MindFlay then wand to death. This would  maximize SW:P and start regaining spirit during your wanding. Because your soloing by starting your pull with VT you only make your Shadow dmg spells mana eficient. 

still in groups u dont allways get the 100%spi
and my SW:P takesl ike 15% of my mana XD multi tagets and i run low fast ((thats y priest need to get AOE SW:P and a mind fly thats like mages CoC :D)) and i dont have VT or SW:D yet...so...kinda makes it slower and cost me mony geting mana

also ty agen for replying :P






                              (((srry for miss spells)))

lie .. its still possible , durin farmers run ( not much time to drink ) , instances , raids - its only 999 mana for SP

when im gonna kill someone i usualy do:

Mind Blast, VE, SW: P, Starshards, then i shield myself  and wand him to death :)

for levling always spec on Spirit Tap in shadow talents :)

I just recently hit 60 but I have been using that exact sequence since I got the ability to use VE and VT...

Shield -> VE -> VT -> SW:P -> Mind Blast -> Mind Flay x 2 -> wand

Good Luck!

Wonderful advice because, you know, no other casting class has problems with mana efficiency.  Definitely, efficiency isn't a point at all for Warriors and Rogues because properly managing rage or energy are never issues for them.  There's no need to worry about getting advice from potentially more experienced players to help improve your game because you can just reroll to an easier class.

/sarcasm