I am having trouble in duels versus hunters. I have a level 60 feral druid with all feral gear. I always loose because of the stun shot and I can't get close enough to attack the hunter. I usually use my feral charge in the beginning of the duels and I get taken out before it cools down and it can be used again.

I have heard that I should shift into cat, pounce and backswipe, then shift to bear and finish it off. Ive also heard that sleeping his pet might work.

If anyone has any advice please post. Thank you.. :)

if its a bm hunter you need to start off stealthed and then head straight to the pet to kill it or it will kill you, then heal yourself as your getting to the hunter. Without his pet he'll be gimped and easy to be killed.

if its a marks hunter just stay close to him and dont worry about the pet because it wont be hitting you for crap.

    I have a level 70 druid, and I am 1/49/11. The only point I have in balance is Natures Grasp.  For most times, that is enough to stop the pet long enough to trounce the hunter no matter if your bear or cat, use the same theory. I went far enough in resto just to get Omen of Clarity. That gives me just enough energy/rage free attacks to give me an egde in most <insert class> fights to win.

if you spend time killing the pet, you will not win (you are not a mob...dont act like one). stay in his face at all times. this helps is you have some pvp in your spec, i.e. brutal impact, natures grasp, feral charge. hopefully natures grasp will keep the pet busy. dont be afraid to shapeshift alot...use all your forms to take him down. scare beast has a longish cast time, so if you see it, just pop out to caster for a sec. bash him, wait for him to use trinket, cyclone, heal, you should be able to outlast him....even if you have to go bear and pop enrage+frenzied. we're too resilient to die!

now, if i could just figure out how to kill a resto shaman....

I'd say stealth then pounce will work the best unless he shoots up a flare. But if you do use natures grasp you should be able to bypass the pet long enough to get to the hunt. I'd then dps him in cat form, and use maim (I think you need to be over 60 to get that) stun him cast bark skin and throw heals when you are low on health.

I'm not too sure I've never really dueled a hunt at my level.

As a lvl 69 Dru, I can to say this is the toughest one out here.  If you can root the pet, you will be in a lot better shape.  Hit the rejuv and lifeloom if u have it, and early.  Go bear, feral charge him. Its the best way to close the gap and get into his dead zone. Bash is your friend.  Dont be afraid to moonfire him if u fall into his freeze trap, which every smart hunter should set. Hit a rejuv while u are in elf form after u moonfired him and get back into bear stat.  If u can bash him...hit the bark skin and regrowth. U should probably hit enervate while you are at it cause the shifting and heals will suck up the mana. And because barkskin lasts 10 sec, you may as well try a hibernate on the pet.  If the pet is close to your level or has high nature resistance, it may resist.  Thats time wasted so hibernate is a crapshoot.  Ideally, just hit natures grasp and that should take care of the pet a second time.
Just remember that if u go kitty and he fears you, thats 5-10 seconds of running around gettin arcane shot and chased by his pet with low armour and health.  Keep an eye on his cast bar.  if he starts to cast scare beast, pop out of kitty or bear before its done. The cooldown is long enough that he cant try it again. In the end, bear is better against hunters imo. Kitty is great for eatin clothwearers like locks and priests.  and maim ftw.

Hunters to me Are a real pain.  DPS with Hunter shooting and Pet attacking can kill a Feral Kitty rather quick.  However I have had a pet on me before and it does little damage to a bear with good armour and resilliance. Best thing to do imo. Is as said previously.  Either Hibernate or Root the pet. Or indeed as stealthed kitty DPS all you got the pet. Then when dead Shapeshift and HOT and Shift to Bear. Feral Charge Hunter and Bash him.  Quick heal and Shift Cat and Rapid DPS the Hunter ensuring you use you DOT Bleed stun as much as possible. This will frustrate the hell out of him. If you do get a stun on him just hang back a little for you energy bar to increase then hit him with a Back attack before the stun runs out.  He will go down quickly believe me.  Also ensure Feirie fire is on him.

as a 66 druid (feral combat)i can t beat hunter's (BM and MS)cz they are fucking overpower and they have armor,pet,damage and i can t do nth about it and if u want to heal they hit me with silence shot then boom i m ded.

First do natures graspso tha pet wont attack then take on tha hunter:P

haha..attack the pet and kill it first?  I love stupid alliance characters that do that crap.  I've seriously set back before, letting them attack my pet (not doing anything myself mind you) and just mend pet.  I've literally watched my pet wax some alliance toon while I did nothing but heal it.  ./target dumbassalliance toon ./lol      haha

ok.. many horde do that too.. and maybe you should keep the world of warcraft racism/stereo typing down. Lol, you have to be pretty deep in this game to be racist/ stereo typing the opposite faction. In any case, remmember both faction can be retarded at times.

  About attacking the pet first. No. BM hunter pets are like little tanks, have fun whacking on it while mend pet is up and the hunter blasting you down. As said above, natures grasp is the best option, because you dont want to waste the time casting hibernate. Even if you have bark skin up, that damage inflicted on you without bear armor is devastating. Never let that pussy hunter away from you, if you see his trap, avoid it, save your stuns and especially charge for the times you need them most. Only bash heal if the pet is cced, same goes for maim heal of course. Dont be afraid to close the gap with a kitty dash either. Never try to beat a hunter in cat, aside from you pouncing him of course. Imo, healing is bad, the precious seconds you spend with even instant HoTs is a lot of damage, heal when both of them are cced. Otherwise, bear all the way, feral charge is your very best friend here, use it when neccesary, and use regeneration at your own risk.. with a hunter its you enduring vs their insane damage and escape mechanics, without your damage on them theyl just keep running away and shoot you while your hopelessly hitting them without rage. If its a mrak hunter, /lol at them. I have never had a problem with any hunter except a bm. Markmans are a joke to me, i just kitty them, and shift whenever they try to slow me down. If your a halfway decent geared feral and your complaining about a marks being OP to you, your probably rediculously outgeared or a rediculous druid. Btw, one more thing i missed.. make sure you have natural shapeshifter in the resto tree, if you want to beat frost mages or bms, you need to shift a lot to get out of those pesky slows and snares.

What your Chars name,  I will look for you in a BG....  Lets see your pet try and scratch my Bear Ass...  Yes Ok I may have been a little forgetfull on who I have attacked and how I beat them.  So many different ways for so many different Trees and classes. Sure I dont always win. But hell who does ?  I only have 5 epics for PVP currently and am working on the others. But truth is I do win some 75% of the time. Yes I agree if I meet a fully epicced Hunter with Pet then I may have a problem.  The only trick I got is unfortunatley lasting as long as possible and delaying him someway or another.
I must admit that mostly I do attack the hunter as much as possible and only the pet when I am being tracked over distance away from the hunters range. Usually when there is a lot of battles going on. 

I usally do is catform pounce add him bleed effects wenn iam losing a lot of hp i do moonfire barskin regrowth and rejuvenation wenn your done with that bear form bash lacerate mangle him MUCH times wenn you finish with that the hunter must be DEAD








BTW i never lose from hunter -_-*

I have a 70 hunter, and now I am trying to lvl up a druid (lvl 50 so far)

Here is what I experienced so far as a hunter:

In BG or arena, a druid would not give that much trouble to a hunter. With pet on agresive, a flare or detecting hiden, it's pretty hard for a druid to pounce a hunter. Once detected, and you are in cat form ... the game is pretty much finished for you. In bear form it's even harder to kill a hunter. Frost trap combined with CC will pretty much keep you away from a hunter. Feral Charge ? well, this will get you close to him, but how much damage can you do in 4 sec as a bear (if you shape shift in cat, you will not have enough energy to bring down the hunter). Once the 4 sec will go away, the hunter will spam you with wing clip, drag you back on the freezing trap area, CC again and there is not much hope for you to win this.

A stupid idea that I have been reading a lot on forums of what a druid should do when encounter a hunter: first, kill the pet ... :D. Well, as a hunter my dream is that all my enemies to focus on my pet! Let them try to kill that bastard which has the armor of a tank and can take LOT of damage before he dies, while I can focus my rapid fire on them ... (a hunter can go to 0.9 attack speed with Rapid Fire and Quick Shoths activated).

My point is:
- if you can not pounce a hunter, you better leave him alone, OR hope he is a bad hunter or you really outgear him.
- though if you manage to pounce him, you have very big chances to win, usually I am almost all the times dead before I could shake the druid off me once I am pounced.

Good inside advise bidoiu that helps out alot. Doesnt help my Druid's self esteem, but it does help to know that hunters OP druids most the time. I glad to hear other druids have had better experiences fighting hunters, but my experiences have gone well like bidoiu explained it. So, yeah Nerf Hunters.



JK! :)

As A BM Hunter I'll testify that "killing the pet" is harder than killing the hunter lol.  If your doing a Bm you want to kill the hunter first I always have problems with feral druids cause they stun me... and my pet can't finish em off because they heal then again I've never put down a stealth repelent lol! But if you take the time to take out the pet the hunter can heal it mega fast and the pet usually has around 7k armor at level 60 while the hunter has around 2-3k. But if that pet gets into BW your pretty much skrewed lol.

EDIT: BM pets have a 50% chance of breaking all magic so if your snaring them your not facing a BM its really pointless to try to push around the pet the hunter is much softer and squishyer the pet is nearly indestructable the Hunter is not.

I'm a 48 druid...not much but I can take down most hunters. Usually I don't have to get out of bear I feral charge and ignore the pet. Talisman of Arathor is really useful when your on low HP, put that on and bark skin just in case and heal yourself(With HoTs). Go back to bear and just bash feral charge. If your somehow at 50/100 rage pop frenzied regen, (if needed) and when your back to zero rage, pop enrage on and finish him off(with  bash and Maul) thats how I usually do it...I win 70% of the time. 

I am a 70 lvl druid and a well geared&skilled one. Beating hunter is the easiest thing what u can do...Frost trap ? = Use talisman , Pet ? = crap dmg when u are in bear , Wing clip ? = shape shift , Stuns (BM hunter have it only) ? = Feral charge when its over , concussive shot ? = Shape shift. If u have well gear with the drood u have np to beat a well geared hunter , u have 18k armor~~ in DPS gear (In bear) so BM hunter pets do 50-100 dmg...And btw u hunters think u can do flare all the time in BG ? =) oh and btw Snake trap ? = Abolish poison...That's all that hunter can do...dont think hunters are OP ^^and if u fight hunter it wont be longer than 20 sec fight so he cant frost trap u again. anything else hunter can do in fight ? oh ye, spam auto attack...




I Can give u ex to beat hunter...FIrst pounce then u are in a ice trap asap use talisman to make mangle+shred = 3k dmg , then hunter have bout 7k HP left, his pet stuns u he kites shoot few shots for like 2k dmg, u shape into bear feral charge and DPS for 4 sec, then bash him, shape out do regrowth + cyclone. wait 5 sec till u out of combat then pounce, mangle+shred = Hunter is dead...

Oh and i forget, Nature gasp b4 start...When hunter attacks u with melee HE is hopefully rooted, not his pet...And in the start u can be pussy to, cyclone hunter, sleep his pet...

I am a 70 MM hunter, and feral druids are one of the easiest classes for me to beat, apart from clothies with no resilence and ret pallys. Can you guys shapeshift out of a scatter shot? At the beginning of the fight i do what i always do. Scatter shot then freeze trap. I go all the way out of range and fire an aimed shot followed up by an arcane shot before they feral charge me. Then i wing clip and feign death and usually by the time they get me retargetted i can move again. then scatter shot is usually up, so i use it and scare beast if trap isnt ready. then they are usually dead...if the feral druid isnt smart enough to go bear, i can kill it in about 10 seconds.

ye but you guys suck big time against me(boomkin)
i know its rather irelevent becouse this is a ferel druid sight but druids, u can rock pvp but every class has another it cant beat,a ferel druids is a hunter, but when i was ferel this was my best bet,

stealth(put points in ferel instinct)becuse if he sees u ur screwed.
Pounce
ok this is important.
use ur bleeds!!!!! while the hunter is kiting u he will take an extreme amount of dmg
rake rake rake AND ONCE UR AT 4 POINTS AND NO LESS THAN 4 MANGLE!
mk so so far we have pounce gotten 3 rakes and a mangle putting us at 5 points.
5 points MAIM
get behind and aply 1 shred and only one
itll do a fair amount of dmg

MK next
hes no longer stuneed or have any slow effect so hes kiting u as his pet is pounding.
GO BEAR. ferel charge when ever its up frenzied regen is a life saver. do this tell hes down to 0 using bear mangle and stuff


with ur cat bleeds aplied plus he lil extra dmg from that shred. switch to bear and take the heat tell hes at 0.
its a ton of work but hey ferels own alost every other class without much work.



post ur coments plz this worked for me but if u find it doesnt for u id like u to post on it

why a fuck would you spam rake? do pounce,mangle,shred,rake and rip. then switch to bearform and hold yourself together

Don't forget to fire up a HoT or two before going bear.

ok so one on one duels with a hunter may prove challenging but if u can stealth gank em they have no chance. and seriously, why would u attack the pet...hunters have pets for one thing...holding aggro so they can sit back and shoot u, yes they can do ok dps if its a cat and they are beast etc etc but he will be way dead before it matters, and seriously druids are not clothies and can take more hits in cat than rogues among being able to heal... and when your pounce wears off and he starts to run...which he will most likely just roots and oomfire spam lol cause if u did it right your damage and dots should be pwning. Also if he is keeping u back with the stun shot, i would either use the sprint thing and or barkskin then roots him, add some hots before bark wears off and u should have him

oh yeh durka, if u must, just sleep the damn pet

if youre going to sneak up on a hunter, wait until his pet is busy fighting someone/something else then pounce on him it works for me

All of you people who say kill the pet first are just stupid.  No offense but it just doesn't work. Why waste time killing the pet when killing the hunter gets rid of the pet.  Root, sleep, fear the pet.  Whatever crowd control spell ya have then go after the hunter.  Get in his melee range and stay there.  If he catches you in a freezing trap shift to a different form to break it and then back to whatever form you were in and get back in melee range.  Hunters can NOT survive when you take away their ranged attacks. UNLESS, they're really skilled at playing that class.

U know that there is a trinket with good geared druids...druid will pounce mangle shred rake + rip b4 u can scatter shot him....and when u scatter - frost trap him the druid use him trinket and its out of frost trap...u can shot aimed in 2 secs....then u are dead alrdy

Ok,  I have played a hunter to 70 and beyond....I found that warriors were my worst enemy, as a hunter, they get right in your face, they charge ya, stun ya, and all you have is a ice trap , and wing clip, I mean I could get away, sometimes, but kiting them, was a pain in the butt......So now I rolled a feral druid, and it seems that the hunter is their enemy, let me tell you a few things about hunters......one thing is their track invisibility is a joke, and at best will give them the ability on lower lvl druids in prowl..and even that will only work if you are lower and up close..and i mean close,...I have tried to use this time and time again...and it is not worth your time....most hunters will figure this out in the long run and end up abandoning it all together.....Ok here is some payback for ole mr hunter, one on one can be a pain, so use your natural talents......which are prowl. Now when u see mr hunter, out leveling up just wait untill he gets busy with a few mobs at the same time....then hibernate his pet....(even if this only works for 1 sec it will cause hime to take the aggro) now Mr. hunter has the mobs on him, and the pet is no longer the main meal, now is when you go up behind him and pounce him , shred him, and so forth, I learned this from a mage I rolled, and I noticed that if I sheeped their pet that they would take all the aggro, and then I would fireball them to the graveyard.....Point is Blizzard made the druid a sneaky assasin, type of class....and you should use him in that fashion, prowling, ravage, pounce, shred,....these skills are meant to be done at the most vulnerable moment on your enemy, it is ment to give you the upper hand, for a moment, untill your enemy gains his bearings, so if you are trying to fight a hunter and you have not removed half his life bar, when he starts his barrage of high dps, you are not using you druid the way he was designed, Btw....with tracking humanoids, you can stalk anybody (almost cept for rogues, and other druids) and you can gank anybody, if you wait untill the time is ripe, also I believe your chances are much better after you attack mr, hunter, is too switch into bear form, it is slower but it will survive him longer.... 

I would also like to point out that there are places in this game for doing different things, out in the world, while you are lvling as a druid, you should literaly own this game, hey you are one of the few classes that can choose his fights, not get camped, and pretty much decide who lives and who dies, In battlegrounds its a little different, but you still have choices, you can still choose to fight or not at the moment, druids are great at defending, like in arithi basin, but I have not done arenas, so I can only say bear form.....No class can take out all the other classes, as a druid...if you are mana dependent, I will wait untill you are low, like pallys, wait untill they drain their tank, and then pounce, mangle shred, and so forth, throe in a moon fire  to get the dot going, when they bubble, and heal, u also heal, man you can out last them in bear form, easy.

the feral druid vs any specced hunter would normally be pwned...
many people have said how the druid can win but theres a reversal for almost everything there....

if the hunter is any class he can lay a frost trap under his feet before you get going....

wing clip and leg it to range you..
intimidation works as well to stop healing and what not
serpant sting / concussive shot.... spam it!

and theres reversals for these too. i imagine hunters really hate it when they lay a frost trap and they have a freshly feral charged bear in their face. or when abolish poison renders stings useless. druids, feral charge is your friend against hunters.

and then when he feigns death, guess who has the mobs?
also, hibernating his pet will remove you from stealth, why open with that instead of a pounce? forget the pet...

somebody said here: "Now when u see mr hunter, out leveling up just wait untill he gets busy with a few mobs at the same time....then hibernate his pet....(" ...

man, you really have the nerv to give advices ?
there is almost nothing in this game more annoing when you fight agais mobs, than a coward that waits stealthed while your life gets lower and attackes you then ... ! bravo, you've done a great job yourself estime should be satisfied !

next step: why don't you just ask nicely mr. hunter to die for you ? that would spare you the waiting time ;-)

go and fight like a real man in arena :) (that's not a place for cowards btw)

LOL, at last post, I am sure not every fight talked about here is about one's pvp skill. Sometimes murder is just as satisfying as an honorable kill. Since I can stealth and watch you from a distance I will kill you once in a while just to sharpen  my claws on your corpse, no matter If I am doing this it isn't personal, because even at full health or in an arena your chance of survival is limited compared to mine, so please feel free to QQ some more about getting murdered by the silent killers among us.

Ok you can see how pissed off a person can get if you wait untill they r busy and then hibernate their pet, this hunter thinks your a coward....but blizzard made the feral druid to prowl, to attack from behind, to pretty well use these skills and, and this is your skill set, the hunter who posted up above can verify that he has been owned by this method, he would prefer you to abandon your skill set and fight like a man...lol....yes what would a feral druid be if he did not use his talents. if mr hunter gets to u before u get to him, he can own you easily, and u may never get a hit in....so use what blizzard gave you, track humanoids, I use this skill more then any other, if i get ganked by a hunter then I will track him and wait untill he is busy and i will kill him over and over, I have done this to almost every class out there, call me what you want, but i dont play this game so ole mr hunter gets the HK, no he is here for my enjoyment, as is all classes, I spend my time lookin for advantage, ok enough said, about that.....Just a note on escaping, if you are a low lvl druid, you will probably start earning HKs at about lvl 20 on up, I have been killed by lvl 70s, and they were there camping me, so you put a tree between you and rez, push cat button ..push stealth button, try to do this action in a bush....then type .../lie....you now become very hard to see even for a lvl 70....BTW if you guys believe like the hunter that you have to fight up front and outta stealth, and that you should be able to do this without having to hide like a coward, if you think in this order, you will be starting more post like this one, A feral druid will own a hunter if u use your toon correctly, it may be down and dirty, but it works, and blizzard will give you the hk, if they are high enough to give honor, and with this method you should be gittin 30 hks a day.......

Also now that i have mastered my cowardly craft of killing, I no longer hibernate pets unless im bored, now i just use pounce and shred, a lot.....and as I dont have mangle yet (lvl48) and yes druids own the game as far as i am concerned, I hope more hunters get on here and call me a coward......makes me proud to be hated, It means I am effective, and this is your answer fellow druids, kill and don't be killed, BTW a good place to gank the horde if you are alliance and a lvl 25 or so is the azurelode mine, in hillsbrad fields....this place is full of lvl 28ish alliance miners, they are on your side(alliance)you can take out three horde in this place easy, cause the horde have quest in here they have to kill some multiple targets...put it to ya this way....they already have a fight when they go into this mine, and now you have three busy targets...that will give you honorable kills, they cant chase you if you run away...cause they draw plenty aggro,  BTW I learned to do this playing horde and gettin ganked by the alliance

Hunters really aren't that hard to kill once you get pvp gear, from my experience atleast, unless they know how to play then the match is still more or less equal. cat form whenever the hunter is CCed for max dps then shift bear, and avoid letting them kite you (not much you can vs a snake trap).

I would like to quote a passage outta the world of warcraft second edition...Master guide....page 133 it will be the last paragraph under the heading "cat form"......right side upper page.
It reads like this when pvping....."Attacking when enemies are already engaged, distracted, or just looking the wrong way can be enough to overwhelm superior numbers and levels" so mr hunter the class is doing exactly as supposed to do, to gank you when you are not ready, not looking, preoccipied with other things, to hunt you down and wait untill you are at low health..low mana...yes there is no reason to be killed by mr hunter if you use your feral druid the way he is intended....

ok ok ok im a lvl 49 NE BM hunter and when you people are talkin about TRACKING THE HUNTER wtf when im out in contested places killing mobs i use ASPECT OF THE BEST it makes me untrackble and u sound really stupid trying to track a class that can track almost everything in the game and um hibernate his pet so the obs will get his aggro um that why we have fegrin death(bad spelling) and im pretty sure hell figure out that it was a durid so hell put up a flare and put his pet in aggressive and prowl so you cant pounce him.

and abut charging a hunter ok when im duleing the 1st trhing i do is set down a freeze trap and stay behind it so charge me ill get stunned for 4sec and youll be frozen for 25sec that enough time for me to put my pet in BW so you cant cc him and use intimdation so you cant cast for 3sec and if by any chance i get below 50% health um i spec in ENGEERING lvl 300 ill just polomorph you and use the shrink ray and death ray or the net-o-matic

OH and for the stupid people that say KILL the pet 1st i want you to try kill my pet ill just heal him i heal +200 every 5sec and it lasts 30 sec and ill just shadowmeld and eat popcorn while you die. 

Hehe, I've gotten to 0.8 with Hurricane whih is like 1.60 speed or 1.80 speed i believe ^_^. But that was old times :D

Btw childzombie, we have an aspect called "Aspect of the Beast" which makes us non-trackable. Most hunters dn't use it, but when I'm getting ganked by a class that can track, I usually use it :)

Lol... Hunters are np to feral druids, SHADOW PRIESTS ARE... all you do is go is bear form and just walk up to him and kill him, of course you'll need decent gear and it won't matter if that hunter is s3 (atleast from my experience, might not apply to everyone). They just take long to kill,go cat form whenevr he's CCed. If there's 1 thing good about bear form is that any melee class won't do shit dmg to you. (again this is from my experience as a 70 druid)

healing is pointless with pet on you, and you shouldn't rely on a crit to win, it's okay to be a beartard vs huntards imo!

lol