Sealfate. Them knowing how to play is them getting their gear to 200+ hit. A rogue that is 3rd in Kara DPS is likely awful unless they are standing next to two classes with way better Gear. If us  rogues aren't in 1st we aren't doing our job unless its AOEville. I had Vengence Wrap for a while and this is better in terms of Pure PVE DPS. My Advice is run Kara with 200 to 250Hit for trash and try to get to 300 for bosses. I switch out gear to accomplish this. For 25mans 300+ hit works nicely.