thats right    i have 70 rouge and warr  i usualy am in the top 3 in dps charts and i have worse gear than most of the other ppl  but still  ret palas can out dps warrs easy with enough +crit and AP    and still off heal if needed

and ppl    stop whining about hunter wep or warr wep  MS warrs use 2H wep's and fury warrs use 2x 1handers or fast 2h  hunters shuld let warrs and palas take the 2h weps instead of pissing all the raid off