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    Score -2.1     Vote: [-] [+] by laeon, 3.5 months ago
    whats with blizzard putting spell hit on prot pala gear. we dont need more then 40raiting and thats 1 enchant and talents. like what i wouldnt give for some melee hit for avengers shield or even melee hits.  or expertise so i can spec into reckoning and avoid those parries.

    but all in all a decent shield if your not deep enough into hyjal for the kaz shield. and its great for waves in hyjal cuz i know i bring 4 shields and they all break by the time we get azga done.

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    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Sunward Crest
      Score 0.71     Vote: [-] [+] by MalakaMan, 3.5 months ago
      It's spell hit rating. And yes, Protection Paladins can make great use of it. It will significantly boost your aggro on bosses (+3 levels) since your Judgements etc. will have a lesser chance to be resisted.

      Also your Taunt relies on spell hit.
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        Score 1.8     Vote: [-] [+] by Demosthenes21, 2.7 months ago
        It's spell hit rating. And yes, Protection Paladins can make great use of it. It will significantly boost your aggro on bosses (+3 levels) since your Judgements etc. will have a lesser chance to be resisted.

        Increase your threat a little bit, yes. But the majority of our threat isn't resistible. Consecrate (primary threat source), holy shield, and SoR all have an extremely low chance to be resisted if they are even resistible at all. Judgements make up a minor part of paladin threat.

        Also your Taunt relies on spell hit.

        Fail, been melee hit for a very long time
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          Score 3.1     Vote: [-] [+] by Zombay, 1.2 months ago
          Increase your threat a little bit, yes. But the majority of our threat isn't resistible. Consecrate (primary threat source), holy shield, and SoR all have an extremely low chance to be resisted if they are even resistible at all. Judgements make up a minor part of paladin threat.

          Depends what you're tanking and how you are tanking. If you are tanking regular crap in heroics and 5-mans, you only need 6% hit and spellhit to be capped (the protection talent lowers it to 3%). This is probably why you don't see much in the way of resists.

          When you fight raid bosses, it's a completely different ball game. Just as with all other spellcasters, 16% spellhit is mandatory to max out your chance to generate threat. Whether or not you tank raid bosses determines the need to stack spell hit rating.

          If you are still leveling your pally, try this: Tank an orange or red mob, either in the world or in an instance. You will occasionally see ret aura resist, holy shield partially resist, and seal of righteousness partially resist. Spell hit is what helps fix that.

          Holy shield is my primary source of threat. In fact, on regular junk I don't even consecrate. The reason is that if I need to stop too frequently to drink, the rest of my party starts complaining about the lack of progress. You might use consecrate all the time for every mob, and if you do the logic is different... but if you just use holy shield and So/JoR it will be enough threat (9 times out of 10) to keep everything stuck on you, and spell hit rating helps keep holy shield and righteousness threat relatively consistent.

          In conclusion, pally tank itemization is complex and almost everything that you think might help helps.
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      Score 1.4     Vote: [-] [+] by Mallowmar, 3.4 months ago
      Spell Hit vary helpful for a prot pally more so than expertise rating. Remember you don't build aggro with white damage, its all spell damage. A good prot pally may not even need to hit a mob inorder to keep aggro on it. I don't how many times I've been resisted by a mob or bosss that resulted in loosing aggro. The higher raid instances it is very important for DPS to max spell hit or melee hit rating inorder to be effective.
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        Score 5.7     Vote: [-] [+] by EvilPeppah, 3.4 months ago
        However, Avenger's Shield, Righteous Defense, and Seal procs are all bases on HIT, not spell hit.
        •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Sunward Crest
          Score -0.80     Vote: [-] [+] by MalakaMan, 3.0 months ago
          I am pretty sure that this may be patched in time. I do not see the logic in game mechanics that protection paladins are intended to go for hit rating AND spell hit rating.

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