Can anyone tell me how is it that when I fight other rouges that they are able to continuously sap and stun me so much so that I don't even get a move in before they kill me.
It is annoying, I don't even get to hit them.
So I want to learn how to do it.
Can anyone please tell me the required maneuvers that I need to do to do this?
Can anyone tell me how is it that when I fight other rouges that they are able to continuously sap and stun me so much so that I don't even get a move in before they kill me.
It is annoying, I don't even get to hit them.
So I want to learn how to do it.
Can anyone please tell me the required maneuvers that I need to do to do this?
[stealth] cheapshot ( stuns for 4 seconds) lvl 26 you get it. Sinister strike tille 5 combo points, (kidney shot 1 combopoint 1 second, 5 combo points 5 seconds . lvl 50 you get upgrade kidney shot last 6 seconds with 5 combo points .
ok so try this:
-Stealth when you see enemy
-Sprint to him
-CheapShot - will stun for 4 seconds ( gives 2 combo points)
-sinister strike 2-3 times - with the right talents "seal fate" gain additional combo points, [should be at 5 combo points]
-Kidney Shot - will stun for another 5-6 seconds.
- sinister strike 2 times for another 2-4 combo points
-(Vanish) - very useful right about this point because it increases your stealth for 10 seconds.
-Soon as you have 60 energy cheap shot again you can have another 5 combo points.
last thing to do before your last finishing move:
"evasion"- they wont hit you often
now theres 3 finishing moves.
1). Kidney Shot stuns for another 5-6 seconds and sinister strike till they die.
2). click your buffs, "berserk"(if troll) "Cold Blood" and "a trinket that adds to attack power" end with eviscerate with a high 1900-2300 damage "on my character" dont know how much you will do.
3) envenom, if you applied stackable poisons on your weapons, use envenom which does a lot more then eviscerate so far i seen 2500 with envenom on my Toon. which is wierd to me.
there ya go please post if theres anything wrong with this might be missing 1 - 2 things since im not subt
Well, if your facing another rogue, definitly get a rupture up there to avoid them stealthing.
Also, vanishing isn't something you can do over and over as it has a 5 minute cooldown.
And you should not use sprint so unwisely
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[stealth] cheapshot ( stuns for 4 seconds) lvl 26 you get it. Sinister strike tille 5 combo points, [/quote]
I seriously doubt that "sinister strike till 5 combo pionts".
you are not able to regain energy even when u use 2 sinisters before stun breaks.... so... kidney after 1st sinister ro 2 sinister strikes and give the enemy chance to make a move.
Just my opinion. 5 cp only with premed.
If you are using crip poisons, this is how i would approach it,
(from stealth)cheap shot, backstab, kidney shot, backstab, rupture, gouge, backstab.
also if your sub specced as i am you could add premed and then a hemo after the cheap shot
If you are using crip poisons, this is how i would approach it,
(from stealth)cheap shot, backstab, kidney shot, backstab, rupture, gouge, backstab.
also if your sub specced as i am you could add premed and then a hemo after the cheap shot
You can't gouge after a rupture or the bleed will break the stun...
You can't premed after cheap shot because it requires stealth...
Well... if a rogue is good enough and smart enough he would wait till he has enough energy and like 3 combo points on you then vanish+CS right after a rapture tick it works ive done it before but im also a dwarf rogue so if i wanted to i could stoneform vanish :P
my mistake with the rupture ofc :)
and i mean premed before the cheap shot
im a subt rogue so this is what i usually do if i want someone stunned for a while
cloak
premed
shadowstep
cheap shot
backstab
kidney shot (should last 6 seconds)
backstab
gouge (as soon as kidney shot ends)
backstab (right before gouge runs out or you get full energy)
hemo
sinister strike
kidney shot again (again 6 seconds)
shadowstep backstab / shadowstep ambush (if you can get cloaked)
if the fight isn't over by now i either blowing your cooldowns and going all out or buying some new weapons.
I do it like this. ( Crip poison in my off hand. )
Stealth
Cheap Shot
Backstab
Run away for a few seconds
Gouge
/flex
Backstab
(Thats 5 combo points)
Run around as long as they have crippling poison applied, until I have a good amount of energy.
Kidney Shot
Backstab
Vanish... Rinse and repeat.
That whole process doesn't take long at all and if used right with a dagger combat rogue, can be pretty awesome.
I always do like this...first i go to stealth and then i target the enemy and use that Preparation thingh that gives 2 combo p. Then i cheap shot it and use one backstab on it.after 4 seconds are gone i kidney shot it..while that stun i make bacstab,sinister strike and that is all...then i vanish and cheap shot it again...after that i gouge the enemy and after that blind...at the end i turn on my evasion,shadow of cloaks and getting my combos up for eVASion:)
This can be done with NO gaps, but you do need Subtlety talents (which is PvP spec anyway)
Walk behind him. WTF do you need to Sprint for?
Cheapshot (3 combo points with Initiative proc)
Hemorrhage
Gouge (and wait for energy to recharge, duh, don't attack him)
Kidneyshot
Do a few Hemorrhages
Gouge
Either 1) Your choice of finishing move or 2) Blind and wait for KS cooldown and repeat (this will leave some time where he isn't stunned) or 3) Vanish and repeat.
The problem is diminishing returns.
Alternatively just do Cheapshot, Kidneyshot, the traditional way.
EDIT: Replace a Hemo with a Shiv.
Some of u guys were talking about backstab following by cheapshot. But doesn't cheapshot break u out of stealth? How would u then perform a backstab?
Also, at what level do u get hemo or is it from the talent tree, which I haven't noticed?
Key is to get your hit points up fast so you can kidney punch after the cheap shot wears off. Use thistle tea or the talent point (can't remember what it is called offhand - in combat tree) that gives you 100% energy regen (although it has a 5min cooldown).
For the quick kill must have your slice'n'dice up, even 1 point will should give you long enough to have an effect, and if you put your sprint on at the same time the target won't know where to turn if it does come out of stun lock!
Another good one a lot of rogues forget is to use blind, let your energy build up while you blind the target - you can then vanish and c.shot again if need be, or just KP if you didn't get it off the first time and have enough energy to finish it off.
depends on what your fighting..
Warrior:
premed
shadowstep
garrote
shiv
rupture
vanish
normally you can do this before the warrior has a chance to figure out whats going on because your behind him...stay invisible and allow the dots to take the hitpoints down to 2/3. New 70s will go down to 1/2 their hitpoints on this combo because dots ignore armor (depends on your AP as well).
now go in for the kill...
Sprint
Distract
cheapshot
backstab
kidneyshot
backstab
evasion
hemo
hemo
99% of warriors are now dead. Easy.
For cloth and other rogues...
Premed
shadowstep
cheapshot
backstab
kidneyshot
backstab
blind
restealth, you don't have to vanish here, blind gives you enough time to reseath, then...
distract
cheapshot
backstab
rupture (especially if your fighting a rogue)
vanish...and finally, if their still not dead..
cheapshot
backstab
eviserate
evasion
hemo
hemo
99.9%of players are now dead
gl playing your rogue!
why all the messy moves? y waste ur shadow step when u can use it at a wiser situation nobody is chasing u with a stick telling u GO KILL HIM FAST!
the way i do it and i beat ALL classes and evryone on the server knows me.
stealth
premeditation( if ur fighting a challenging guy otherwise no)
sap
get close and cheap shot followed by a few hemo's
and then when u have 5 combo pts no less u kidney shot.
then u hemo again and again ofc while running around him.
then u throw off a finisher while kidney shot repops from cd
then u gain ur pts and kidney shot
if the situation gets bad u gouge and run then restlth,sap etc
if the situation gets REALLY messy to the point of loss u blind sprint away and restealth.
i know this is all too brief lol i use many moves depending on the guy ur fighting.
but thats just me... u can shiv the mind numbing poison in casters or healers to give u time to kick
and any runaway problems means u shadow step and gouge to stopem
thanks for listening lol
Im new to rogue class and wanted to know the best way to build combo points when in battle?
depends on spec and situation and level ofc. please expand.
im a combat rogue and my stunlocks go like this......
Cheap shot
sinister strike
gouge .....wait for energy.
sinister strike
kidney shot.....
when they get outve kidney shot ill blind or gouge again
by then it should be dead
I have figured out pro stunlock. (im sub/combat btw)
(only works in 1v1's, cuz others around suck)
once u see someone, Sap.
Premed
Cheapshot
Hemo (4 or 5 combos)
Kidneyshot
Backstab
Hemo
Blind, wait to leave combat, stealth, repeat.
If not dead by then, vanish and repeat.
in almost every 1v1 i've done this i've won, unless i mess up or my cd's aren't finished.
Backstab can be performed out of stealth. Hemorrhage is a 21 point Subtlety tree talent.
backstab does not require stealth.
so cheapshot while standing BEHIND the target, then you can use backstab(have to use dagger and behind the target)
multilate adds 2 combo points, so i use cheap shot then multilate twice, blind to build up energy then kidney shot and back to multilate, and vanish to start again if not dead yet.
right after your about to die just use blind then use bandages then vanish so you will probobly killem
backstab doesnt require stealth...
Some of u guys were talking about backstab following by cheapshot. But doesn't cheapshot break u out of stealth? How would u then perform a backstab?
Also, at what level do u get hemo or is it from the talent tree, which I haven't noticed?
backstab doesnt require stealth...
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