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     Score 1.8     Vote: [-] [+] by Dieselfire, 5.8 months ago
    Hunters should have first go with bows, guns and crossbows. With a speed of 3.00 its more useful to a MM hunter then a BM hunter.

    Rogues/fury warriors could use it just for the stats if there are no hunters in the group that need it.
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         Score 0.00     Vote: [-] [+] by babyfaceman, 5.6 months ago
        Marksman too has a group buff....Trueshot Aura? +125 attckpwr? Yeah i'd say that's a good buff.....
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             Score 8.4     Vote: [-] [+] by yib, 5.3 months ago
            HOW ABOUT ALL HUNTER SPECS ARE GOOD HUH??

            jeez calm down this is a hands down hunter weapon
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             Score 1.00     Vote: [-] [+] by d00mcaster, 4.8 months ago
            1) Improved revive pet is quick cast if your pet dies you get it back as BM
            2) Survival just whore agility for expose weakness and lightning reflexes increases all the physical dps massively by giving them 25% of your agility as attack power... which is your a serious raiding hunter can be upwards of 1k i.e. 250 attack power plus you'll crit enough that this is essentially perminant. All melee heavy raids NEED a survival huntard
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               Score 1.2     Vote: [-] [+] by Thornal, 1.1 months ago
              1) Improved revive pet is quick cast if your pet dies you get it back as BM
              2) Survival just whore agility for expose weakness and lightning reflexes increases all the physical dps massively by giving them 25% of your agility as attack power... which is your a serious raiding hunter can be upwards of 1k i.e. 250 attack power plus you'll crit enough that this is essentially perminant. All melee heavy raids NEED a survival huntard

              More like all physical-heavy raids, it still applies to other hunters.
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           Score 2.9     Vote: [-] [+] by aplayer, 5.4 months ago
          If u play a emd game hunter like myself then you would kno that if you kno how to use ur spec correctly then any and every hunter spec offers excellent DPS. i play a MM hunter my self and i always am wthin the top 5 DPS'ers. so you should learn to play each spec before bagging on them.
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             Score 4.9     Vote: [-] [+] by Caelstraz, 4.1 months ago
            If u play a emd game hunter like myself then you would kno that if you kno how to use ur spec correctly then any and every hunter spec offers excellent DPS. i play a MM hunter my self and i always am wthin the top 5 DPS'ers. so you should learn to play each spec before bagging on them.

            Question: How far have you actually raided with your hunter? Before making a claim that MM is equally viable I'd hope that you have played AT LEAST through BT/MH.

            In a way you are right, I could see MM being strong DPS when played correctly. However, the difference is MM does not offer as much potential in increasing the rest of the raid's DPS. Trueshot Aura is useful, but a geared/well played BM or Survival hunter will increase raid damage exponentially. I believe I have some experience in the area as I have played a hunter in SWP content. (Still on the Twins, so I may not see this bow for a week or two :( assuming it drops, hehe)

            I hate to break it to you, but any intelligent, end-game raid leader will ask you to please respec, with TBC MM is just not a viable raid spec. The funny part is it used to be the opposite pre-BC, MM was prefered over BM. Who knows, maybe MM will get a nice buff when WotLK comes out. :)
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               Score 2.2     Vote: [-] [+] by s-t, 3.8 months ago
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              I hate to break it to you, but any intelligent, end-game raid leader will ask you to please respec, with TBC MM is just not a viable raid spec. The funny part is it used to be the opposite pre-BC, MM was prefered over BM. Who knows, maybe MM will get a nice buff when WotLK comes out. :)

              You are very right and I wonder why can't everybody consolidate their beliefs like this?

              Having to read crap in every single comment section to ranged weapons that relates to either hunter prio vs. rogues/dps warriors or hunter spec viability over and over again just makes me sick. I'd love to give you my opinion on these two subjects but it's so obvious to any serious end-game raider that's it not even worth repeating at the risk of fanning any flames or agitating people such as myself.

              It's almost as if some of you visit every ranged weapon ID and show everybody how ignorant you are. Most people's comments involuntarily reveal that they are not even close getting the item at hand because their ignorance indicates that they cannot possibly be in a serious end-game guild. They've probably never even looked at a WWS report or even considered what is for the greater good of the raid performance.
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               Score 1.9     Vote: [-] [+] by danhass, 3.5 months ago
              In a way you are right, I could see MM being strong DPS when played correctly. However, the difference is MM does not offer as much potential in increasing the rest of the raid's DPS. Trueshot Aura is useful, but a geared/well played BM or Survival hunter will increase raid damage exponentially. I believe I have some experience in the area as I have played a hunter in SWP content. (Still on the Twins, so I may not see this bow for a week or two :( assuming it drops, hehe)

              I hate to break it to you, but any intelligent, end-game raid leader will ask you to please respec, with TBC MM is just not a viable raid spec. The funny part is it used to be the opposite pre-BC, MM was prefered over BM. Who knows, maybe MM will get a nice buff when WotLK comes out. :)

              Well, you're presuming a lot.  First, a raid only needs one SV hunter and if the guild has a full time SV hunter, the other hunters should go for max DPS.

              Second, BM hunters (and SV hunters) take a lot of grief from DPS meter-monkeys.  While educated players understand that a BM hunter trades some personal DPS for group DPS and shifts a significant portion of his DPS to his pet, when I'm BM specced, I can't tell you how much grief I take from raids on the order of "Your not in the top 5 DPS with your gear!!!  WTF?"  And it is just a lot easier to run MM than educate the DPS meter-monkeys - who don't really want to be educated, and will give a BM hunter even more grief for "making excuses".

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             Score -1.9     Vote: [-] [+] by Holyhunter94, 3.8 months ago
            If u play a emd game hunter like myself then you would kno that if you kno how to use ur spec correctly then any and every hunter spec offers excellent DPS. i play a MM hunter my self and i always am wthin the top 5 DPS'ers. so you should learn to play each spec before bagging on them.

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           Score 0.00     Vote: [-] [+] by hybeh, 2.9 months ago
          MM don't have a party buff?? what about Trueshot Aura? 125 AP per 5 man? It's just as scallable as the BM buff... Obviously not as nice as the raid wide buff that SV Hunters offer, but hey like you say, you just bring one surv hunter
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         Score 1.5     Vote: [-] [+] by maddhattr, 4.5 months ago
        Hunters should have first go with bows, guns and crossbows. With a speed of 3.00 its more useful to a MM hunter then a BM hunter.

        Rogues/fury warriors could use it just for the stats if there are no hunters in the group that need it.

        Not true, with the right amount of haste it is quite easy to drop 3.0 speed weapons into the correct speed range for a BM hunter.

        I think somewhere between 150-190 haste would be preferable.  Easy to do with Sunwell loot.
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