Hi guys i was wondering what max gear can a priest get before getting gear from ssc and tk

At the moment im rolling in ok gear

Heres my armory link : http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mannoroth&n=Rasputina

I just wanna know for each slot what i can upgrade too eg: head, sholders, legs ect

Cheers :)

This question really depends.  Do you just want Kara/Gruul/Mag/Heroic/Crafted gear?  Do you want to include ZA?  Do you want to include 2.3 Badge Loot?  How about 2.4 Badge Loot?

If you want to include it all, here is what I would go with:

Head: Light-Collar of the Incarnate (T4 Head from Prince in KZ)
Neck: Brooch of Nature's Mercy (From Eagle Boss in ZA)
Shoulders: Swiftheal Mantle (Pattern drops from BT but is BOE, but can be bought on AH or directly from BT guilds)
Back: Stainless Cloak of the Pure-Hearted (From Prince in ZA)
Chest: Robes of Heavenly Purpose (From Bear Boss in ZA) or SLIGHTLY better are Gown of Spiritual Wonder (2.4 Badge Loot for 100 Badges)
Bracers: Wristguards of Tranquil Thought (2.3 Badge Loot for 35 Badges)
Gloves: Light-Blessed Bonds (2.3 Badge Loot for 60 Badges)
Belt: Belt of the Long Road (Pattern drops in SSC and is BOP, but the item is BOE, so it can be bought on AH or directly from SSC guilds)
Legs: Adorned Supernal Legwraps (2.4 Badge Loot for 100 Badges)
Feet: Slippers of Dutiful Mending (2.4 Badge Loot for 75 Badges)
Ring: Violet Signet of the Grand Restorer (Violet Eye Exalted Reward)
Ring: Anveena's Touch (2.4 Badge Loot for 60 Badges)
Trinket: Essence of the Martyr (2.3 Badge Loot for 41 Badges)
Trinket: Ribbon of Sacrifice (Opera Event in KZ)
Weapon: Gavel of Naaru Blessing (2.4 Badge Loot for 150 Badges)
Off-Hand: Voodoo Shaker (2.3 Badge Loot for 35 Badges)
Wand: Blue Diamond Witchwand (Opera Event in KZ)

Then, just make sure you enchant it all right (I've mentioned it in other threads, so I won't reitterate), and put a +9 Healing +4 Spirit gem in every Red or Blue gem slot, and a +9 Healing +4 Int in every Yellow, and you'll have some damn good gear.  In fact, that gear isn't too far behind mine since 2.3 Badge Loot is roughly equivalent to SSC/TK gear and 2.4 Badge Loot is roughly equivalent to BT/MH gear.  With a set like that, you'd have sufficient regen and healing for a good BT or MH run.

Yes, the days of having to grind SSC and TK to get to the high level instances are over, if you run KZ enough times for badges.

Thanx a heap for the help man! Not to be stupid but were is the 2.3 gear held? I had a leave from 2.2 and came back on 2.4 so i havent had time to look at that badge gear

The 2.3 Badge Loot vendor is in the middle of Shattrath where all the Portals are.  He's on the top, floor by, I believe, the East enclave.  He's one of the Naaru.  The 2.4 Badge Loot vendor is on Quel'Danas by the anvil; should be easy to spot.

If you find that getting all those badges is rough (it IS several hundred afterall) or that some of the bosses aren't accessible, I can try to provide alternatives.  For instance, the Two-Toed Sandals that Zul'Jin drops or the Boots of the Long Road (SSC BOE Pattern) aren't a whole lot behind the 2.4 Badge Boots.

Also, some of the items are only small upgrades over other ones, so they may not be worth the time/money/badges to get.  For instance, if you have the Lower City Prayer Book, the Ribbon of Sacrifice is only 3 more healing and a less useful Use.  So keep all of that in mind as well.

Yup, poster above is pretty much right, only prefer the head from the Hexlord in za myself:p

I assume you're refering to the Hood of the Third Eye?  It is a nice hood, but I still prefer Tier4 better.  First, Tier4 is easier to get.  Second, Hood of the Third Eye has 15 MP5, and Tier4 has 6 MP5 and 25 Spirit.  Third, Tier4 has a Meta-Socket (good) and a Blue Socket (good), while the Hood has a Red Socket (good), a Yellow Socket (not as good), and a Blue Socket (good).

That said, they are pretty close, and I suppose if you used Epic Gems they might be even closer, but I'd be hard-pressed to justify putting Epic Gems in either.  Either way, IMO Spirit is almost always superior to MP5, and certainly 25 Spirit >> 9 MP5.

Well i got that hood before the patch, before the patch 5 spirit was 1 mp5, not sure what is now. So the hood from za would give more mp5. And more healing then the one from t4, but idd you miss a meta gem, but hell you get to have skeletons hanging down your chin!

Ah thanx guys, i got the tier 4 sholders last night from a guild run in gruuls, but then we ran Tk and 3 of my guildies got the t5 sholders lol, so i can see myself replacing the t4 to t5 very soon. WINGS!

But the badge gear is ok to get i spose, i got the legs, and 36 into getting the boots, just need a ZA run to get the chest!


Annnnd what makes the badge chest better than the ZA one i see the ZA one being slightly better? Please explain :(

For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to assume 20% OO5SR.  Pre 2.4, 1 Spirit was 0.625 MP5 OO5SR.  With 3/3 Meditiation, that means it was worth 0.1875 MP5 I5SR or 0.275 MP5 on average.  Don't forget it's also worth 0.35 +Healing with 5/5 Spiritual Guidance and IDS.  So, IIRC, I had spirit worth about 1.8 and MP5 worth about 2.82 (relative to 1 +Healing).

Now, post 2.4, it depends on your gear.  At my gear level, 1 Spirit is now worth 1.23 MP5 OO5SR.  That means it's worth 0.369 MP5 I5SR or 0.5412 MP5 on average.  It's still worth 0.35 Healing too.  So that means it's considerably closer in value (2.39 to 2.82).  So, while it's still less valuable point for point, because MP5 is so much more expensive in terms of itemization, you end up getting a lot more Spirit.

Spirit also benefits in other ways that MP5 doesn't.  First off, it's buffable by Kings!  For me, that actually makes Kings give me more mana regen than Blessing of Wisdom because of the 10% more Intellect and 10% more Spirit.  Also, Spirit benefits from Innervates, where MP5 does not.  When I get Innervated now, I always end up with full mana, even if I'm empty; pre-2.4, I'd have to use ESM to guarantee that.

My assessment of the badge chest isn't intuitive, because it doesn't look better either, but the numbers don't lie.  According to my numbers, I'll get about 155.6 +Healing and 3963 Mana from the ZA Chest over an 8 minute fight; this works out to 72082 effective healing.  The badge chest only gives 146.6 +Healing, but gives 4477 Mana over an 8 minute fight; this works out to 75193 effective healing.  Also note, the badge chest gives +15 Stamina and +12 Intellect.  So, taking those into account, my numbers rate the ZA chest at 314 and the badge chest at 331 (everything relative to +Healing value).

Of course, those numbers were computed with rare gems in mind.  The ZA chest does have 2 more gem slots, so with fully epic gems, it's possible it would be better for straight up healing.

Either way, as I said, it's only a slight upgrade, and it's the last piece of badge gear for which I'm concerned (I got the Pants, Boots, and Ring first even though the ring will only last me until Vashj decides to drop the healing ring).

So, yes, if you're getting badge gear, your priority should almost certainly be Pants, Boots, Mace, Ring, Chest, unless you have a huge deficit somewhere there.  The Pants are better than both the T6 ones and the ones that drop from Archimonde.  The Boots are better than T6, and the Ring is slightly less than the Exalted Hyjal ring.

Edit:  Please note that those numbers for mana regen are based on my gear, and a conservative 20% OO5SR assumption, so it's probably different for you.

aye, did the same. Only need to save 50 badges more for the boots and then i'm done. At least that's what i tought but with this new info i got in this forum i might go for the chest aswell:p.
Tho the stats doesnt look that much better then the one from za i'm packing and it's still another 100 badges.
But should definitly check it out, so thnx for the info.

I might just run ZA's a bit, and if it doesnt drop im sure ill have enough badges to get the chest by then, and if it does ill just get the mace then i spose

Thanx for the help guys :D