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    Score 2.9     Vote: [-] [+] by Kairra, 2.2 months ago
    Last edit: 1.7 months ago
    Hunter analysis of this stone:

    The way I see it, in long boss fights, I typically need to roll with Aspect of the Viper so that I have the mana to maintain my dps for the entire fight.  I can use pots, of course, but it all comes down to a comparison of aspects, trinkets, and pots.

    Aspect of the Hawk:  +155 Attack Power

    Aspect of the Viper:  mana return up to 55% of Intellect / 5 sec


    Assassin's Alchemist Stone:  +108 Attack Power and +40% effect from mana and health pots


    Super Mana potion:
    1800-3000 mana --> +40% -->  2520-4200 mana

    Super Rejuvenation / Mad Alchemist potions:
    1650-2750 health and mana -->  +40% -->  2310-3850 mana

    Fel Mana Potion:
    3200 mana / 24 sec --> +40% -->  4480 mana / 24 sec


    Potions can be used every 2 minutes (120 sec), so spreading that mana out over two minutes gives the following MP5:

    Super Mana potion:  105-175 mp5
    Super Rejuv / Mad Al:  96-160 mp5
    Fel Mana potion:  186 mp5


    I use Bloodlust Brooch and the current version of the alchemist stone before this one, so I am just going to give the AP increase and mp5 comparison by using it and not using it, as well as using the average return of potions:


    Aspect of the Viper:
    My intellect in PVE gear is around 310.  This gives 170 mp5 using 55% of intellect.  It likely won't be that high all of the time, but that's the maximum.


    Aspect of the Hawk + Al Stone:

    + 155 Attack Power - Aspect of the Hawk
    + 108 Attack Power - Assassin's Stone
    ------------------------------------------
    = +263 Attack Power

    Using Fel Mana potion = 185 mp5


    Basically, you can get 263 more attack power using this trinket with Fel Mana potions and still maintain enough mana for the long fight as if you had the Aspect of the Viper on.  Even with regular Super Mana pots, you'll still maintain around 140 mp5...and you can switch to Aspect of the Viper to finish off a boss.

    If you can find a trinket that does more than 263 effective Attack Power, drop the stone, but otherwise, it looks like a very good hunter choice for long fights.  From what I can tell, the extra 263AP is about an extra 18.8dps, which equals about 2.5% crit based on my current gear.

    Skuully - Hunter
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Deathwing&n=skuully
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Assassin's Alchemist Stone
      Score 1.1     Vote: [-] [+] by lelokong, 29.3 days ago
      at first i was thinking about going JC to get the shadowsong panther, but seeing this, i will go achy. having to switch over from hawk to viper once i reach about 40% mana, gimps dps alot especially with IAoTH lost.
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      Score 1.2     Vote: [-] [+] by saitox, 26.2 days ago
      screw those potions you posted. Go with the cheap ass mad alchemist potions... They restore health and mana, and they do both better than the super health/mana in one potion. I always keep a stack of like 20 on me with raids, so whenever I get mid health or mana, I just pop one. With this trinket it makes them all the better.

      Plus it's one less trinket for me to think about since I don't have to activate anything. The bloodlust badge is my other one, but I have that tied to beastial wrath and rapid fire, so I don't need to remember it directly.
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