personally now a days i don't feel turtles are needed because everyones getting those dam new raptors,wind serpents and ravengers. This pet is an old school pet which i have but i mainly use cats, this cats ok if ur maybe mm or survival but for my bm hunter its cats. Cats were popular  since they came out, i mean turtles a good tank , better then a bear but in the long run most hunters need dps pets.