its nice to see GrittKazzak and coolryan have some brain cells :P, grit i feel ya if a retardin beats me in dps (which i have yet to see) then i will join u in pacman and to the retardin(s) above and below, bite me cuz ill pwn u in dps with one finger and defenitely in pvp to boot, note range dps>melee dps especially retardins and especially the all stupid and fabled shockadin, any serious raiding guild will take a hunter over a retardin for a raid, hell i'd take a "firestone spec warlock" over a retardin XD
Enjoy Karazhan and pug Gruul's for the rest of this expansion. Ret Paladins are a completely viable source of dps and utility. We're not there to be top dps, but add some nice damage AS WELL as utility. You're a bad player.