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    Score -1.2     Vote: [-] [+] by BurritoMan, 3.1 months ago
    ummm not to say that only a hunter can use this, but grit ur wrong about many things.  First off, since when do ret pallies beat hunters in raid dps? I have only raided with 2, but on even fights like gorefiend there is no way a ret paladin can beat a hunter.

    Secondly, you are ignorant if you say hunters don't have utility.  BM hunters bring the stacking Ferocious Inspiration party wide buff, but mainly Survival hunters give the raid target the legendary debuff known as Expose Armor.  So yeah that increases ap for the entire raid group. The debuff's effect is scaled directly off the hunters' agility.  This being the Most agi packed on a melee wep makes me think it should be defaulted to a hunter and most likely a survival hunter. 

    Besides ur buffs (i dont consider buffs utility as we often park our pally alts outside and buff everyone b4 we enter) What raid utility do ret paladins have other than being able to keep up a judgement of wisdom?


    Fuck, you are so terrible.



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      Score 3.5     Vote: [-] [+] by Arfarre, 2.6 months ago
      I agree, cheeseme1 you are clueless. Sadly, your opinion seems to be shared by a vast number of players, so I will try to explain it:
      Utility a ret paladin brings to a raid:
      -First, another blessing. Anyone that has done Sunwell knows the current state of the holy pala class. It's terrible (and I play a holly pala in SW :S). Bringing a third blessing in the form of a ret pala is surely a nice idea.
      - Improved Judgment of the Crusader, which is a +3% crit for all dps, melee and caster alike. That alone accounts for more dps than the expose armor buff of the survival hunt.
      - +2% damage increase for his party, in the form of Improved sanctity aura. Ever seen a dual Warglaive rogue with this??
      - The ability to refresh ALL of the judgments. Just ask the hollys or prot to judge at the start of the fight, and bang, you have JoW and JoL for the entire fight, provided the pala refreshes the judgments with Crusader Strike.
      - Wipe recovery in the form of Divine Intervention. Not terribly useful, but it has utility.
      All of this, added to decent dps. Move on retards, ret pallys are viable now, and they rock.
      And on topic, yes this is the best ret pala weapon bar the sword from KJ. It is also the best polearm for hunts. However benefits the most from the drop, or DKPs and gratz.
      Just my 2 cents
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Shivering Felspine
      Score 0.00     Vote: [-] [+] by bendenrider, 2.5 months ago
      I would agree with your comment Burritoman, except I still think you're an idiot because of your comment above where you called all hunters faggots.
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