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  •   Report  Quote Reply The AH scam
    Score 3.6     Vote: [-] [+] by SheppardDemon, 2.5 years ago
    Some more insight.
    For those of you in the 210-220 range trying to get it to 225.  Buy as 10x Thick Leather at the Auction house at no more than 70s.  Buy the reagents for Nightscape Headbands and make 2 for every stack of Thick Leather.  Sell to vendors or to players for more.  You level up your Leatherworking and make 10s a trip, pretty nice swindle :D
      •   Report  Quote Reply Re: what lvl does your char have to be to get expert
        Score 0.00     Vote: [-] [+] by chungchung8, 7.7 months ago
        well dah thats wat i did the headbands get like 45s each easy to get money
      •   Report  Quote Reply Re: what lvl does your char have to be to get expert
        Score -1.5     Vote: [-] [+] by pitbullbamf, 7.4 months ago
        your toon has to be lvl 35. to find this out all u have to do is when u go to the LW trainer u look at avalible an unavalible an it will show what lvl to get next lvl in LW... and what lvl ur LW has to be to make the item u want to make. gl

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        •   Report  Quote Reply Re: what lvl does your char have to be to get expert
          Score 3.6     Vote: [-] [+] by donnajo, 18.4 days ago
          You don't have to be any lvl.  My lvl 20 warlock just got expert herbalism status last night.  It's the level of the herbalism skill you have obtained not the level of the toon.
          •   Report  Quote Reply Re: what lvl does your char have to be to get expert
            Score 4.9     Vote: [-] [+] by NickUmanski, 8.5 days ago
            You don't have to be any lvl.  My lvl 20 warlock just got expert herbalism status last night.  It's the level of the herbalism skill you have obtained not the level of the toon.

            For the 3 collecting professions (Herbalism, Skinning and Mining) there are no limits relating to your toon level.  But for other professions, including the secondary professions, there are.  I believe that level is 35 for all professions (baring those 3 mentioned), certainly for Leatherworking and the secondary professions.
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: The AH scam
      Score 1.4     Vote: [-] [+] by crobos, 7.6 months ago
      he's almost got it right, though it's now X20 but don't sell them, disenchant them, you get vision dust, lesser neather essence and small radiant shards, I would buy the thick leather at 1g50s x20 and make the headbands, then DE the head bands and get about 4g average in mats, and enchanting mats are free to sell in AH, if you're not finding the thick leather in the AH then just head to ungoro crater, the ravasaurs drop it like mad, and they're everywhere.

      I take my lv 70 hunter out there with a fast pet, hit one with an arrow, sick the pet on it, target a new one and sick the pet on it B4 it kills the first, and repeat until I can group about 10 together, then drop an explosive trap and melee the rest off, loot, skin, repeat.  doing that I can get about 200 thick leather in 30 min, vend the junk you don't want, buy the thread, make the headbands and send it all to my enchanter, de and ah, and bam!  I just made average of 175g in half an hours work.  The junk pays for the arrows, the thread, and the mail cost.  oh yeah, and the repair bills.

      it's also fun to get revenge on the devilsaurs that used to step on me
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: The AH scam
      Score 1.5     Vote: [-] [+] by Belladova, 7.4 months ago
      Un'Goro is (on average) low to mid fifties mobs, but there are a few elite dinos out there (or there were when I went through there last), so if facing down a 55 elite isn't in your best interest, pull with care. ;)

      I guess "pull with care" is always good advice....

      These dragons also drop black dragonscales (as I recall) for the recipes that call for them.

      An alternative to Un'Goro is the coast of the Hinterlands.  The turtles there are lvl 49-51 and are passive, so are good if the aggressive Un'Goro dinos are still a bit out of your reach.  These turtles also give you the turtle scales you need for some recipes.  Keep in mind that these mobs are on the edge of a lvl change so will drop some heavy leather too.  But if you are high 40's it is a lot easier to farm there than in Un'Goro and at least the only adds you need worry about are from the lone elite turtle, or on PVP servers the Horde camp nearby (if you are Alliance). Keep an eye out for a rare turtle spawn near the base of the waterfall since he drops greens. :) 

      The Burning Steepes dragons are now non-elites (so the Un'Goro mobs may be too) and drop loads of rugged leather for when your recipes call for that.  I used to farm leather in a circle around the ogre mountain on the east side of the zone.  The ogres drop mageweave and silver, so I'd kill them too as I came across them.  They die very easily.  I guess loincloths aren't good armor. :p  If your char is a miner/skinner BS is a haven:  Black Iron Ore/Mithril/Thorium/Rugged Leather all in one spot.

      Like the previous poster, I DE'd whatever guildies couldn't immediately use since I could get more for the enchanting mats than the items. 

      Happy Hunting :)
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: The AH scam
      Score 0.00     Vote: [-] [+] by melonmonkey, 7.4 months ago
      Deviate scale belts are there the money is. I ade 70g in two days at level 27 with those. They are horrible for leveling up though, and by the time you can efficiently gather them  you will get no exp in the process.
      •   Report  Quote Reply Re: The AH scam
        Score 6.4     Vote: [-] [+] by elvinfire, 6.9 months ago
        Depends on the server. There is too much supply and not enough demand for LW on my server and the deviate belts go for about 4-5g. Its sad that people in the same trade cut each others throat for a gold or two. I first sold the barbaric bracers and deviate belts for around 15g(give or take) and some idiots, looking to make a quick buck, drove the price down by charging 11-12g. It kept going like this for a month or so and now they go for 4g. I hate economics.
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: The AH scam
      Score 0.00     Vote: [-] [+] by Gramatron, 3.8 months ago
      The bad thing was someone charging 15 gold for that level of item. People that charge that much are supporting the "Twink" people which really sucks for the guy that cant. I am glad that is down to that and I am a LW'r. Levels the playing field, so the guy with level 70 with no life and gets his alt all the best gear has to actually learn how to play instead of just his gear doing his fighting for him.
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: The AH scam
      Score 2.7     Vote: [-] [+] by fullmetal1313666, 1.2 months ago
      ur not the first to think of this. its actualy better if u get em disenchanted cuz they can drop nether nessances i think
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: The AH scam
      Score 3.0     Vote: [-] [+] by Strasznor, 27.6 days ago
      Hehe, on my server, a stack of 20xThick Leather costs about 14 gold... and Nigthscape gear sells for about 2 gold per item.
      •   Report  Quote Reply Re: The AH scam
        Score 3.3     Vote: [-] [+] by Repaxan <Dark Horizons>, 21.9 days ago
        Yup, same.
      •   Report  Quote Reply Re: The AH scam
        Score 3.6     Vote: [-] [+] by Paradox22, 19.1 days ago
        14g!

        Amazing.  Currently a stack sells for about 5g in my realm.  When I made my money disenchanting headbands a stack cost 2-3 gold and vision dust ranged from .5 to 1.5 gold each.  Result = big profit.  Things changed as others seemed to catch on and now AH is flooded with vision dust. 
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: The AH scam
      Score 4.6     Vote: [-] [+] by ztinger, 9.2 days ago
      Thick leather on my server is around 12g and that's a good day. I tried this whole vision dust thing as I leveled an alt in LW.  I think I can make more gold just selling the skins outright. 
      Price of skins - up
      Price of vision dust - down

      Unfortunately too many people have been doing the same :(
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: The AH scam
      Score 5.2     Vote: [-] [+] by xeres2277, 8.0 days ago
      be thankful your not on my server when you need to make cash, thick leather only goes for 8g. if you want to u your skill then it rocks but the higher lvl leathers like rugged seem to go for about 20g.
      And on the note of people dropping the prices on items on AH to make a fast buck.............im sorry. it was probably me, im normally the cause for every other skinner/LW'er as everything is always over-priced and i need to cause crashes to make everyone else realize that no-one can even afford half the crap they make.
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: The AH scam
      Score 18     Vote: [-] [+] by Wöden, 2.0 days ago
      Im very much against this undercutting lark on the AH's. Sure some items are expensive, thats the way it should be: Isn't an items value determined by it's use and not its level?

      Deviate scale belts are awesome items for their level: it's right they should be expensive. If anyone doesnt want to pay high prices for high quality items, then i know full well its easy enough for all classes to level up though basic greens.

      Effectively; the only people using these kinds of items are power levellers with more money than sense and twinks. The former are laughable but acceptable, the latter shouldn't cause any need for concern.

      Remember, a twink character has a limited shelf life, once you get to 30, you dont need to worry about twink items nor characters until 36ish, then again from 40 though to end game. Let the twinks pay top dollar for the best lvl 29 chestpiece, etc, because any class can get past 29 by doing a few more quests.

      As for undercutting: would you bite the hand that feeds you??? if you continuosly drive the prices down on any profession you do, you'll suffer just as much pain yourself in the long run. Sure some of the higher end raw leathers are expensive but thats how it should be. If a toon has leatherworking and skinning, then he should never need to buy leather from the AH. If he only has skinning, then decent money can be made from the raw leather in the AH. If he only has leatherworking, then sure, he'll have to fork out for leather, but what money is he making with the other profession slot of his choosing.

      Economics is always based on supply v's demand and quality v's quantity; Yet the real money makers use acumen and wisdom. We all have professions to make gold with, and we can all make good money without having to drive down prices. If anyone finds they are continually driven down, then think about aggressive measures:

      Is there enough reason to buyout the undercutter and repost the stock yourself at your higher price?
      If you have alts then you can drive their bidding price up to the same level as yours.
      Examine the AH and try differnet days, sometimes the weekend generate more sales, sometimes not.
      If your server is flooded with LWers/skinners: Look to private sales, through your guild maybe. Maybe the guild disenchanter wants a steady supply of greens, maybe your guild has a LW who doesnt skin, etc, etc.  Do sommat others dont, e.g sell you greens with an armor pack or maybe a cheap enchantment, etc.

      Most importantly: the average joe will make a few gold, but the real businessman will make real gold.

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