with my enh shammy i beat pallys all the time, patience is what will win u the fight espically if u r vers a prot or holy pally, lol @ ret pallies i own them most of their dmg comes in burst and that burst is when ur normally stunned if u trinket outta their stun asap they cant do as much dmg to u, and if u always keep totems down eg earthbind hes gna hav a hard time even hitting u esp since i use rank1 fs to keep them slowed, i normally only exhange blows with a pally when my ss is ready then justy keep them kited, lol some pallyes who r more onto it than others will destroy ur totems tho and ifthey keep doin that throw down a stoneclaw lol they will hit it in desperation to get rid of it and then they get stunned lol, i hav ppl asking me wtf shammies cant stun