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  •   Report  Quote Reply Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
    Score 7.4     Vote: [-] [+] by bobbyb, 2.4 years ago
    Last edit: 2.4 years ago
    I have a pally who has just made it to 200 engineering so I've just done some research here to decide which disipline I should go into.

    As your artisian engineer trainer will tell you Gnomish engineers make gadgets, Goblin engineers make explosives.

    My initial thought before coming here was to go goblin for the dps how ever after doing some research I have changed my mind.... Please note that having never been an engineer before all thoughts here are based purely on my research.

    Goblin Engineers offer such nice things as the Goblin Construction Helmet for the extra skill in mining, Goblin Mortars (sucks they have 10 min cool downs) and the Goblin Rocket Helm (note the sucky 20 minute cool down). >But the greatest advantage of goblins is that they give you the ability to res people with jumper cables. <b>Note that being a Gnomish Engineer you can use goblin jumper cables but you just cant make them.</b>

    Gnomish Engineers on the other hand offer such awsome things like the Gnomish Cloaking Device, Shrink Ray (just a 5 minute cooldown too), Net-o-Matic Projector (which would rule for PvP), Mind Control Cap (*drool*) and the ultimate engineer trinket that you see heaps of people wearing the mighty Death Ray.

    Goblin Engineers have saved my alts many a time from wipes and are well worth it. But if you are a class that can already res like a pally I say Gnomish all the way.
          •   Report  Quote Reply Hunter engineer: gnome versus goblin
            Score 1.7     Vote: [-] [+] by tmay53, 1.9 years ago
            My hunter just chose gnome engineering.  You don't have to be a goblin engineer to use Goblin Jumper Cables XL, only to make them.  So a hunter/gnome engineer can still feign death to avoid a wipe, then rez the priest.

            In addition, I've had alot of fun using the gadgets available to gnomish engineers.  Between managing shots, my pet, and when to use the trinkets, it's far more involved than casting frostbolt three times, cone of cold, frost nova, repeat with my mage.
    •   Report  Quote Reply gnomeish v goblin
      Score 1.3     Vote: [-] [+] by adastraperaspera, 1.7 years ago
      As a Hunter everyone told me to go goblin for the jumper cables, but as they are BoE i can just buy them :D so i went for gnomish as it's great fun when you PVP a lot :)
      now i can wyvern (sleep for 12 sec), Concussive to slow them and net them after that :D which means i can solo any class if all my cooldowns are on. and i'v got the death ray to fall back on to finish them, or me :( off

      Gnomish FTW :D
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 1.1     Vote: [-] [+] by anyki, 1.1 years ago
      The statement about being a Gnomish engineer and not being able to both Make + Use the "Goblin Jumper Cables" isn't completely accurate. 

      Goblin Jumper Cables only require that you be an Engineer with a skill of 165 - both to make and to use.  Alot of higher level engineering items require engineering to weild/use them... such as The Parachute Cloak, Mechanical Dragonling, and Compact Harvester... and the Goblin Jumper Cables.  You can make Goblin Jumper Cables long before you come to this quest... just look for the schematic or buy it in the AH.
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 0.00     Vote: [-] [+] by gwt2, 12.1 months ago
      Gnomish Cloaking Device u can use/make before u choose ether gnome or goblin

      If u are a pally then i  would go with goblin, because u have a way to pull mobs and have some aoes

      but if u are a high dps or long distance class i would go with gnome because of trinkets, and the net is good to keep them away (or right next to u if it catches u)

      and the death ray is good with warlocks because of high stamina
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 0.90     Vote: [-] [+] by Abbrakadbra_Mage, 8.5 months ago
      Can Some tell me where u choose to be a gnome engineer or a golbin one. Any suggestions on wat one to be (i am a gnome mage)



      Abbrakadabra
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 0.00     Vote: [-] [+] by blackcobra32, 8.5 months ago
      Does anyone no how to become a goblin engineer when u are a gnome engineer????????

      i've up to 250 around but there is nothing for gnomish and i want to switch with goblin without restarting everything

      PLZ HELP!!!
      •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
        Score 0.90     Vote: [-] [+] by gupanai, 8.5 months ago
        ive heard thst you may change in LW maybe  there is a way to do in enginereing to? maybe in the next realese wrath of the lich king u can do so. so u just gotta wait and hope.
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 5.4     Vote: [-] [+] by Skincarver, 8.5 months ago
      i went goblin just because of the rock launcher ganking ally in STV is so much fun with it
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 1.8     Vote: [-] [+] by jadei, 8.4 months ago
      hi somebody know how can i change goblin to gnomish ? ( Horde )
      plz help
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 0.00     Vote: [-] [+] by soleiaz678, 8.3 months ago
      you can switch but i think u need to start over from the beginning.  by beginning i mean back to making copper tubes and stuff.

      not too sure but in tanaris north of steamwheedle port there is a house where u can interact with the book to reset a profession (if u went goblin and want to go gnomish u have to start from the beginning, read this book, and re-pick gnomish when u get to that point)

      i dunno if this has changed with recent patches cuz i dont read the patch notes, so u might wanna check it out b4 u go and reset ur hard-earned engineering skillz =_=
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 0.00     Vote: [-] [+] by KSAboy, 8.2 months ago
      lol first time i know that there is 2 kinds of Engineering

      how can i do gnomeish Engineering while im horde?
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score -2.7     Vote: [-] [+] by uzisuicidex, 7.7 months ago
      so a human pally should go gnomish engingeering?

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      •   Report  Quote Reply Engineering Pally?
        Score 0.00     Vote: [-] [+] by MrPFox, 7.7 months ago
        Reading these posts I'd want to say Gnomish, as a Pally doesnt need Jumper Cables. But pally = no ranged attacks. So You may want to take Goblin for the firepower. The mortar + bombs and whatnot will help you with distance fights/pulling :)
        •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Engineering Pally?
          Score 0.91     Vote: [-] [+] by crosisofskywall, 7.6 months ago
          I am a lvl 70 pally and I did choose goblin. However. I rarely use any of the trinkets and stuff in an instence in stuff. However I have been known to use the rocket launcher inbetween heals on a boss.
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 0.00     Vote: [-] [+] by Bentblade, 7.6 months ago
      I am a rogue and i dont know whats best for me i did alittle resurch and goblin sounds realy good more fire power and stun chance when im up aginst spellcasters.Gnomish tho has cool trinkets that also could help. I dont know what to pick yet ill do alittle more resurch
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score -3.7     Vote: [-] [+] by shibdige, 7.6 months ago
      I am i dwarfen hunter and i chose gnomish, but before hand i bought the goblin jumpcable recipe bfore hand and learnt it. so i can make and use the cables even though i am a gnomish engineer


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    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 1.9     Vote: [-] [+] by Aresella, 7.4 months ago
      I may have missed it, but what lvl is needed to make the Goblin Jumper Cables XL?
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 5.7     Vote: [-] [+] by shadowx7, 7.4 months ago
      its actually possible for hunters to battle rez with the jumper cables, i went gnomish on mine because i like the gadgets, i got a goblin spec friend to make me the jumper cables and since they arent a trinket now i can fd and if i dont get hit into combat immediately then i can run over to someone and attempt to brez em, has worked before, got our mage up once on anzu :D
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 1.9     Vote: [-] [+] by Faldeork, 7.2 months ago
      Am a 68 bal druid am thinking of going gnomish for the mind control helmet but idk if i should or not. Can i get some help here  0.0 ?
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 0.99     Vote: [-] [+] by krimluthorin, 7.0 months ago
      from what i can tell gnomish is the best i have spent the last few days doing all the cheks posible and i find tha if you want to own the world go with the gnomes.

      by the way if anyone is in warsong when i getv to make my death ray i want to start a raid of engeeners i think it would be a clear on any city we attack sheep exploshoins dragons and even a squirll or two and i say whynot a little mind control on the side.

      battle plans: go to undercity send in a few men to start a city pull have a group ready with shrink rays then after shrink send armys of sheeps and dragons then death ray the rest. this works for warsong due to the high number of enegeeners there.
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 3.5     Vote: [-] [+] by Jding, 4.5 months ago
      i just have to point out some facts here:

      -goblin eng can make gnomish cloaking device

      -There are more items which only goblin can make (these are not labeled "goblin" but u can only learn them from the goblin eng trainer) eg. The big/bigger one and sapper charges

      -most gnomish items have a chance to backfire

      -Goblin rocket launcher!! 45stam, heaps of damage (which can crit), 45 yd range! 45!!! turning some1 into a chicken aint gonna match that
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 2.3     Vote: [-] [+] by Pallei, 4.5 months ago
      lol, im a pally myself, i chose Gnomish for many reasons..
      1. sure theres a rocket and can stun, it sucks...68 druid used it on my hunter while i was in halaa standing on the flag..hit me for 500 and stunned for 3 secs...Didn't nothing to help =/
      2. in pvp on arena 2v2 can really help...turn healer into a chicken  andthen dps down the other. IF they trinket out id send my Hunter partner to go Freeze em :)
      3.Gnome eng are AWESOME  twinks above lv.40. You can make EPIC Heads. :)
      4. Goblin does nothing whatsoever to help a Holy Pally...Think about your spec at 70, if your prot...Kinda good..ret..Eh...Holy not at all good...But it definatelydepends  on spec. :)
      Anyways
      ~Silverbow 70 NE Hunter Muradin
      ~Pallei 57 Paladin BE Silvermoon
      Toodleoes
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 1.2     Vote: [-] [+] by noobione, 4.0 months ago
      any thought which would be better for a gnome warlock at level 40 some. thank you.
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 1.2     Vote: [-] [+] by noobione, 4.0 months ago
      any thought which would be better for a gnome warlock at level 40 some. thank you.
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 1.3     Vote: [-] [+] by Shad4163, 3.6 months ago
      OK PEOPLE LISTEN UP.  WHEN YOU TAKE EITHER GNOMISH OR GOBLIN ENGINEERING YOU SIGN A PLEDGE.  THAT PLEDGE GOES LIKE THIS (FOR GOBLIN):

      "SIGN THE PLEDGE, SWEARING TO NIXX SPROCKETSPRING THAT YOU WILL KEEP THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOBLIN ENGINEERING IN ETERNAL SECRECY."

      IF YOU DOUBT THAT YOU SIGNED SUCH A DOCUMENT LOOK UP THE QUEST "THE PLEDGE OF SECRECY" AND "NIXX'S PLEDGE OF SECRECY."

      IF YOU THINK THAT IT IS STUPID THAT YOU CANNOT SWITCH BETWEEN THE TWO, THEN YOU NEVER SHOULD HAVE SIGNED THE PLEDGE AGREEING TO DO JUST THAT!
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 1.7     Vote: [-] [+] by kajitsu, 2.2 months ago
      as a 42 beast mastery hunter which should i be?
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 5.5     Vote: [-] [+] by aeke002, 2.1 months ago
      im a goblin engineer and i admit i envy the gadgets gnomish make but someone told me alot of goblin items are BoP whereas most gnomish items are BoE.
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 2.0     Vote: [-] [+] by Noizrocx, 1.9 months ago
      Goblin Engineering FTW.  Explosives are extremely useful, especially the stunning effect, and Goblin Sapper charges are a great surprise if you are gonna die in PVP anyway.  Goblin Jumper Cables can be made and used by both Goblin and Gnome engineers as can the Gnomish Cloaking device (course rogues dont need that hehe).  Gnomish engineers are great, especially the trinkets (Poultriezer, mind control helmet etc)  Both are exceptionally good specializations, all depends on what you will use them for.  PVP Rogues with Goblin Engineers are DEADLY.
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 2.6     Vote: [-] [+] by Gnomoli5, 1.3 months ago
      I stared eng at lvl 56 and now lvl 64 i got Gnomish rng and i love it! My shrik ray is great for pvp and pve also Net trink is grwat in WSG cant wait till i can get death ray!
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 3.7     Vote: [-] [+] by FreakinEvil, 8.8 days ago
      I love my golbim eng the bombs are my best friends and my rocket launcher  is a great trinket it gives my pally a ranged attack only has a 2 min cooldown Does about 1200 per hit and you get +45 stam. In my oppion the rocket launcher is the best item created  by eng.
    •   Report  Quote Reply Re: Gnomish vs Goblin Engingeering
      Score 5.0     Vote: [-] [+] by OheBoi, 5.3 days ago
      Nice Post, Im a lvl 40 druid(have a lvl 70 main) resto btw.
      im gonna do lots of BG/arena. so i chose GNome, say you been gannked in AV you can MC them and make them attack another, travel form and run. OR chicken them and run :D
      but tank druids idk what you choose, probly Goblin for easy +51 stanima(and cheap compared to darkmoon Card one)
      i mainly choose Gnomes for Res and Mind conntrol!!!!!!!!! WOOOHOOO
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