It takes 16 sets (128) dampscale basalisk eyes to get to neutral if you've done no further quests other than the initial picking of sides. From there you get firewing signets from the elves at firewing point and turn them in to a girl near the center stairs up on the scryers tier (sorry haven't kept track of how many you need for that one).
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Aldor and Scryers by whatshisface, Score 0.10
I haven't been privy to play Beta, so i have come to the decision as to which faction to choose, The Scryers or the Aldor?? What i would like to know is: is there much of a difference between the two? Are the rewards Different?? is one faction for Casters and one for Melee?
Thanks in advance
Swiching? by Hexensinith, Score 0.12 Rep from mobs? by Rummlah, Score -0.45 Assuming.... by yadayadarogue, Score -0.26
This site is not complete though
http://www.wowwiki.com/Comparison_of_Aldor_and_Scryer_rewards I had a closer look and there are some tailoring patterns missing. With the Aldor, you can get flameheart patterns for tailoring with a total amount of +110 fr...
its the first q that you do by yesitriedit, Score 0.11 Gaining rep by 3hirty6ix, Score 0.10
Once and for all. The 2 factions hate each other, so obviously, gaining reputation with one would make you more detested by the other.
If you reach Exalted with Scryers you will be hated by Aldor, and vica versa. If you decide to switch factions, it will depend on what your previous reputation was at. If you are friendly with Scyers, you will be unfriendly with Aldor. If you are exalted with Scyers you will be hated by Aldor. That means if you decide to switch factions, it will require more work to increase faction since you will be working from at LEAST Unfriendly status rather than friendly. Word of advice, don't switch factions until you are level 70 and have nothing else to do in the game but grind rep.
Made wrong choice, need help! :( by BoRSaCi, Score 0.00 Portal Trainer by minionjoe, Score -0.69
should be ok by polker, Score -0.13 Changing Factions by MrClean25, Score -0.16
Each faction, Scryer and Aldor, has differing ways to gain rep, but there is only one way each to change between them. Each side has a repeatable quest that will, with time, allow you to switch faction:
Scryer to Aldor: More Venom Sacs. Turning in stacks of 8 venom sacs gives you +250 Aldor Rep and -275 Scryer Rep. Eventually, you will reverse your rep and become friendly to Aldor. Aldor to Scryer: More Basilisk Eyes. Turning in stacks of 8 basilisk eyes gives you +250 Scryer rep and -275 Aldor rep. Eventually you will reverse your rep and become friendly to Scryer. Note that you will lose faction with your current one quicker than you gain with the other one, so you may be on bad terms with both for a while. I would assume that, once you've gotten what you wanted from one side, if you are incredibly patient and like to grind a lot, you can eventually get everything you want from the other. switching... by faerlina, Score 0.22
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After choosing Scryers I knew that I made the wrong choice, so here's what I did to get back to Aldor.
As stated here there is a repeatable quest to gain honor for Aldor and you need to hand in your Dreadfang Venom Sac's 8 at a time to Sha'Nir in the lower city at round 64,16, Now you farm the Sac's at 55,57 from the spiders there. I needed to hand in around 200 sac's to get Neutral so I could choose Aldor and that was with just the rep from choosing sides at the begining. Bass Ackward by Danksmokar, Score -0.30
Best Grinding in Netherstorm by tenebrosity, Score 0.00 Goof for rogues by zeagan, Score 0.00
If you want to change your allegiance from the Scryers to the Aldors you must see Sha'nir @ 64.15 in Lower Shat, and do the "Strained Supplies" quest repeatedly.
To change from Aldors to Scryers you would see Arcanist Adyria @ 54.22 in Lower Shat, and do the "Voren'thal's Visions" quest repeatedly. At this point I am in terra incognita. I can only assume that when you graduate both sides inexorably, there should be a time when you are neutral with both factions again. And now the quest "Allegiance to the ..." is hopefully available again from Khadgar @ 54.44 in the upper city. If so, this will give you +3500 rep toward friendly. This should prompt the quests to go see your prospective faction representative. Then Happy Grinding.
warlock, alchemy and herbs by kaliraider, Score 0.00 has anyone tried it? by Nierti, Score 0.00 Choosing between Aldor and Scryers by Tolle44, Score -1.2 Sunfury signets all the way? by be__bad, Score 0.00 ? by sykkes, Score -2.0 Switching Factions... by Kurge, Score 0.00 which is better? by Idmaif70, Score -1.4 what should i choose? by vindicators brand or retainers blade? ahh, Score -3.4 Enchanting by Luroto, Score -2.8
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You do not lose any ... by quisisancoi, Score 0.00 the link to the movie about which to choose by spotter623, Score -1.6
Once and for all, if you start out Scryers and rep all the way to Exalted, and you get all the recipes for your tradeskills, you will still be able to use them after grinding Aldor from Hated all the way to Exalted. That is unless you are a complete idiot who bought the recipes and didn't try to actually learn them till you had lost your Scryers rep.
Why do so many people not realize that on recipes, the faction requirement is only to LEARN the recipe, not to use it? [b]text[/b] lol... by gostrider93, Score -1.8 Switching: by Coswiin, Score 0.00 Just wondering... by jakejeckel, Score 0.00 Re: The Scryers by teese/risque, Score 0.00 Re: The Scryers by Bengalo, Score 0.00 Re: The Scryers by rolpyolp, Score -3.1
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You better be careful which faction you pick... cause Everquest SUCKS!
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Ok so i just spent 7 and 1/2 hours grinding the basiliks north of allerian stronghold in terrokar forest. I went from about 1/2 freindly with aldor to 108 neutral with scryers.
The drop rate at first was a constant 30ish percent, and then probability grabbed ahold of me stronger, the more i grinded. It turned out to be a 26 percent droprate over 1109 kills and collecting 288 eyes. Overall I was able to kill 2.46 basiliks/minute. If you go clockwise around the river and cross where the bridge is they all respawn perfectly without having to wait around for them. Once i turned them all in i was 108 into nuetral with scryers ( as stated before) i went back to the guy in the middle of shattrah, he said something like "now that you have chosen a side go speak with [blank] around scryers towers" or equivalent. Howver i did not get the automatic friendly status with scyers after talking to him ( like i did when i chose aldor to start), acutally i only got 11 scyer rep :(. Hope this info helps. BTW this requires serious commitment. You have the ganking aspect from that area being quested in and just endless slaughtering of these basiliks. Lythos - Alliance Frost Mage, Deathwing
Non-Tradeskill items.
It's been established that you are able to learn and keep the tradeskill patterns that you gain from each faction, even after switching sides, however, what about the items themselves, such as the seer's ring. If I were to purchase it, and then go off and do the long grind to aldor, would I lose the ability to equip this, much like losing the ability to equip frozen shadoweave if I switch to a spellfire tailor, since it states Required Exhaulted.
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Im a Holy priest, and i got scryers up to 17k revered, when i found out i should have picked aldors. So i farmed Venom Sags and did abit of math too
i needed to reverse 36.000 Scryer rep 8 venom sags = 275 Rep So thats 130 times u have to turn 8 venom sags in Total venom sags = 1047 Lets say u get 1 sag out of 3 spiders killed ( Thats what i got) thats 3341 Spiders that need to be killed. Took me 6 days of grinding P.s Dont ask me if i wanna go grind another spider :O)
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Voren'thal's Visions & More Basilisk Eyes
8 Dampscale Basilisk Eyes per Quest. 250 rep per Quest Turn in. Hated to Hostile (36000) 36000/250 = 144 Quest turn ins 144*8 = 1152 Dampscale Basilisk Eyes Hostile to Unfriendly (3000) 3000/250 = 12 Quest turn ins 12*8 = 96 Dampscale Basilisk Eyes Unfriendly to Neutral (3000) 3000/250 = 12 Quest turn ins 12*8 = 96 Dampscale Basilisk Eyes Neutral to Friendly (3000) 3000/250 = 12 Quest turn ins 12*8 = 96 Dampscale Basilisk Eyes ---------------------------------------------- Firewing Signets 25 rep per Firewing Signet Friendly -> Honored: 6000 6000/25 = 240 Firewing Signets ---------------------------------------------- Sunfury Signets 10 Sunfury Signets per Quest. 250 rep per Quest Turn in. Honored -> Revered: 12000 12000/250 = 48 Quest turn ins 48*10 = 480 Sunfury Signets Revered -> Exalted: 21000 21000/250 = 84 Quest turn ins 84*10 = 840 Sunfury Signets
Re: The Scryers by Troy8345, Score 0.00 Faction by Blouwkiee, Score 0.00 factions by warlord26000, Score 0.00
People seem to still be having trouble figuring out whether to be scryer or aldor. From an end-game point of view, the only interesting rep items are the Inscriptions.
Here are your choices at the exalted level. All items begin with "Greater Inscription of the ...": ------------------------------------------- Tanks: ...Knight: +15 Defense, +10 Dodge (Scryer) v. ...Warding: +15 Dodge, +10 Defense (Aldor) Healers: ...Oracle: +6 Mp5, +22 Healing (Scryer) v. ...Faith: +33 Healing, +11 Spell Dmg, +4 Mp5 (Aldor) Melee Dps: ...Blade: +15 Crit, +20 AP (Scryer) v. ...Vengeance: +30 AP, +10 Crit (Aldor) Spell dps: ...Orb: +15 Spell Crit, +12 Spell Dmg. (Scryer) v. ...Discipline: +18 Spell Dmg/Heal, +10 Spell Crit (Aldor) ------------------------------------------- I don't know what the best inscription for your class is. I know I'm a resto druid, so I don't care about Mp5, and therefore the Aldor inscription is the one for me (Aldor is more healing but less mp5). Hopefully you have a similar command of your class, and can make an informed decision on Aldor v. Scryer based on the above data. Looking at only the inscriptions will help you make that decision. The Inscriptions are the only BoP, irreplacable item...there's always better gear than the rep ones, you can always buy the items the patterns make, but there is no way to add stats to your shoulder other than through these inscriptions. Hope this helps. Re: The Scryers by underpants_gnome, Score -1.2 Re: The Scryers by Jegarn, Score 0.00
First of all, I'd take a look at both side's faciton rewards and take a note of any that interest you. Also, think about your profession. Scryers have six leatherworking recipes, but Aldor have none. If you're leatherworking, you might want to go for Scryer, particularly if the items from the recipes interest you or sell for a lot on your server.
I made the mistake of not looking at faction rewards and recipes, and picked Aldor. I did alot of quests and got to revered by Aldor, before realising Scryer was actually better for me. It took hours of grinding and buying Basilisk Eyes before I became Neutral with the Scryers, and there was a point when I was Unfriendly with both Scryer and Aldor*. Then, of course, I had to repeat getting from Neutral-Revered without the 3500 extra rep that Khadgar gives you. All in all, think carefully about which faction you choose! *If you're not sure why this is... Think about it, handing in Kil'Jaedan marks gave +250 rep for Aldor, but -275 rep for Scryer. When I handed in Sunfury Signets, it was reversed. +250 for Scryer, and -275 for Aldor... But that means there is still 25 Aldor rep I haven't paid off to Scryers. If I was 0 Neutral with both and handed in Mark: ALDOR: 250 SCRYER: -275 Then Signet: ALDOR: -25 SCRYER -25 There! Sorted. :) Re: The Scryers by Invain745, Score 0.00
I hit revered with these guys yesterday.
The only thing I could use up to revered was a shoulder slot enchant that adds 13 critical strike rating at honored. Now I got the alchemy recipe. If youre alchemist you definetly wanna be a scryer, couse the Aldor dont have alchemy recipes. I am also looking forward to geting exalted so i can use the dagger. Im a rouge.
I really need help because I don't know which side to pick for my 4 Characters who are
Dwarf Hunter Mining/Engineering Blood Elf Paladin Mining/Blacksmith Night Elf Druid Leather-working/skinning Blood elf Rouge Engineering/mining If u have any suggestions plz tell me I really need to know Re: The Scryers by bloodsteam, Score 0.00 Re: The Scryers by roflmao_0005, Score 0.00 Re: The Scryers by Tolofowshow, Score 0.00 Jimmy: The world of warcraft story by Perrywinkl, Score 0.00
Will scryers/aldor rep be useful when Lich King King comes out? I'm at revered now but i dont want to waste my time getting to exalted if its only gonna be useful till the xpansion comes out.
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